Supertote - Renovations

[Ted Craven]

Woke up today to find Brisnet has revamped its site and Supertote is now located at a different web link than the one RDSS currently uses :(:mad:

FYI, that link is: http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/supertote/tracks.cgi (or navigate the new home page at brisnet.com, look for the MORE item on the menu, then look for 'Free Supertote'. This gets you in by browser, but it's no good for RDSS.

So - no Supertote within RDSS until I update the tote module and issue an update, hopefully this week.

I will NOT be updating the older RDSS 2.0, only RDSS 2.1. If you are not using RDSS 2.1 and would like to, just let me know.

It's always something ... :eek:

Ted

[Ted Craven]

FWIW, I've been working for a while on several updates to the tote system, including getting alternate (and redundant) feeds from XpressBet and TwinSpires. Those other ADWs won't be available in the next update when I fix SuperTote, but just FYI.

Ted

[mick]

Where have I heard that before? :-)

[Ted Craven]

UPDATE - now the new Supertote link I posted above does not work at all. Just refers to a TwinSpries mobile site.

I called Brisnet Customer Support. They said the decision had been made (apparently between 11:30 am ET and now) to discontinue Supertote. Period. Permanently.

I expressed how disruptive this decision is, not only to me but to a hundred others of my 'acquaintance'. They escalated to a supervisor my concern about immediately reinstating Supertote, from whom I await a call back.

It could be time for some mass action. Perhaps if EVERYONE using Supertote, inside or outside RDSS, called Brisnet Customer Service the combined impact would convince them to change their minds. Call 1 800 354-9206. It would help if you had your Brisnet login ID handy, or your email.

I'll keep folks posted ...

Ted

[HarryS]

Have an account with trackmasters stats race lens program and their live odds feed has been streaming all day. Live in Nevada so location must not be an issue.

[Ted Craven]

Thanks HarryS for the info about TrackMaster Stat Race lens. I tested this product and am not sure if it is a good replacement for SuperTote (maybe for someone who subscribes to it).

Still working things out ...

Ted

[mick]

Ted,

As you suggested, I called BRIS and complained about Supertote. A contrite young CSR said that yes, the "old" Supertote was gone but the "new" Supertote screen has the same information. Hopefully, there's a way to incorporate the new one into RDSS.

[Ted Craven]

Ted,

As you suggested, I called BRIS and complained about Supertote. A contrite young CSR said that yes, the "old" Supertote was gone but the "new" Supertote screen has the same information. Hopefully, there's a way to incorporate the new one into RDSS.

Haha http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/images/smilies/47.gif ... the new Supertote does have the same information, only in a different format. RDSS is 'smart', but not as smart as our brains!

After some digging, it looks like I can connect RDSS to the NEW Supertote. I only have to rewrite about half the tote related code :):eek: Since Brisnet is owned by TwinSpires (CDI), looks like a lot of code for both Supertote and TwinSpires is similar. So - I'm trying to flesh out redundant tote streams coming from both/either of those sources.

I'll keep everyone posted.

Ted

[Ted Craven]

I'll take back my suggestion that everyone gang up and pester Brisnet about the old Supertote. I'm convinced they're NOT going to resurrect it. Even if they DO temporarily, they will certainly eventually kill it off finally, because they're clearly going with the new mobile format.

it's not even called SuperTote anymore, simply (unnamed) TwinSpires Mobile (m.twinspires.com)

No need to call them. We'll get there. :cool:

Ted

[Ted Craven]

Progress report ...

I AM making good progress getting tote data back into RDSS 2.1!

Brisnet has killed off the old Supertote and replaced it with a Mobile version of TwinSpires race day and program info, tote data and results. (Betting still requires a login to the main TwinSpires site.)

The good news - the new 'Supertote' (Mobile TwinSpires) is BETTER than the old one, just like they said (only the Customer Support Staff probably doesn't know how or why it is better - and Brisnet gave NO notice about its replacement :mad:)!

Better for a mobile user (i.e. on an iPhone or tablet device), but NOT better for a desktop user, IMO. However, the way data is delivered is much better than before if you know how to deconstruct it. PLUS, tote info remains available for each race after the race has finished, and throughout the entire day. Thus, if you come to a card mid-way through and wish you had tote info (e.g. for your models), or if RDSS crashes and dumps your previous race tote info :( - you can get it all back now: it's still there on Brisnet's servers through the entire day.

Plus a number of other things:

- no Brisnet account or login required
- ProfitLine available
- mutuel results available (they always were on the old Supertote)
- listing of ALL tracks running today, cancelled tracks (!), current race and MTP, betting closed status, race Off (running) status - just like most ADWs

The above items mean that a TwinSpires account is no longer required for ProfitLine or instant Results. Canadians, International players and residents of US States where TwinSpires is inaccessible no longer need an account.

It will take me maybe another week to get back to where we were before, but I'm adding a bunch of other stuff and will give a video demo when the next release of RDSS 2.1 is ready. (I will not be updating the older RDSS 2.0 - everyone is welcomed to update to RDSS 2.1).

Cheers,

Ted

[poweshow]

Thank you for your hard work on this, Ted. We all realize that it would take a whole team of lesser men to do what you're do and its truly appreciated!

[Jeebs]

What's the current status of the update? Definitely missing having Live Odds built right into the program. I'm sure that it will be well worth the wait! 😃

[Ted Craven]

The renovation of the tote system is going well, if a bit tricky at times. :confused: Looks like 2nd week of February for a RDSS 2.1 update if all goes well (I'm off for the 1st week).

1. Original tote screens pretty much working as is.

2. No login required for tote info - you set it ON (default) or OFF.

3. ProfitLine comes from tote stream (Brisnet).

4. Tote data available for ALL races on the current day even after the race is over (i.e. get ALL final tote data for every race at any time during the current day).

5. Results appear automatically when race is official. (Note: NEW - you will need to subscribe to the RDSS Bundle data plan to get race Results and Mutuel prices in RDSS. Due to my contract with Equibase/Trackmaster as provider of PP and Results data).

6. When race Results are obtained, Analysis data is automatically saved to Model system - including handicapping and tote factors, Results and Mutuel prices (right now - Excel based, later - a part of the internal RDSS Modeler). If you don't subscribe to the Bundle data plan, you can still enter the Results and Prices manually to the Model system (right now, to the Excel model sheets).

7. Eventually (not initially) Exacta, Quinella and Double pool data will also appear in the tote system. These data, plus WPS data, form the base of a later 'Wager Construction Module' (e.g. hedging/dutching, Dr Z, optimization, complex verticals and horizontals, wager uploading to ADW, record keeping). A goal for 2018.

8. After delivering the above from BrisNet (aka TwinSpires Mobile), I'll work on getting the same data from TwinSpires, XpressBet and AmWager (redundant sources).

Pretty excited :D

Ted

[Mr.Pagine]

Ted,

Keep up the great work.
Hope all is well.

Slowly getting back into it, as we approach Derby Day!!

Jon