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Bill V.
05-22-2019, 04:48 PM
Hello Soc Cal racing fans
Well, it has been a tough year for us. Santa Anita, The great race place has been hurt by so many horses fatalities, The changes in medication rules and whip rules have cause tiny fields, As trainers and jockeys fled for more stable
racing conditions.
The great Santa Anita is reduced to just 3 days a week racing.
Let's hope that thing continue to get better at SA.
Del Mar is coming soon Let us hope that things will be as good as always
The breeder's cup will also help restore SA and Socal racing
Bill V.
05-22-2019, 04:56 PM
Hello Ted or anyone who knows
SoCal racing tends to have the most workout notations
I see this one very often as a positive indicator of a good effort
SCW1
Does SCW1 mean a slow consistent work since the last race?
It looks like it.
For example, a horse races 17 days ago it had a good 4 or 5-furlong
race since the last race, The race was not necessarily fast or slow just that it was within the last recent race.
I also see SCW2 and SCW3 but I am not sure of the meaning,
Can you help me ?
CheckMark
05-23-2019, 08:08 AM
Yes hoping that Del Mar can be better than the things that have happened at Santa Anita. I am hoping that possibly in the future that Del Mar can be the bigger track that Santa Anita. Just my opinion.
gandalf380
05-23-2019, 10:35 AM
Hi Bill:
Glad you are feeling better.
This is what I have on the SCW workouts.
Ted Craven
05-23-2019, 11:13 AM
Hello Ted or anyone who knows
SoCal racing tends to have the most workout notations
I see this one very often as a positive indicator of a good effort
SCW1
Does SCW1 mean a slow consistent work since the last race?
It looks like it.
For example, a horse races 17 days ago it had a good 4 or 5-furlong
race since the last race, The race was not necessarily fast or slow just that it was within the last recent race.
I also see SCW2 and SCW3 but I am not sure of the meaning,
Can you help me ?
Bill, as Charlie notes, SCW means Special Condition Workout, and is documented in the RDSS FAQs, under Workout Patterns, here:
http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpost.php?p=97044&postcount=13
I updated what was there before to more clearly break out the 3 types of SCW, just for you :).
Ted
raceman5
05-23-2019, 04:25 PM
There any way to make those example races clearer? Can hardly read them.
Bob
Bill V.
05-23-2019, 06:52 PM
Hello Bob
About cleaning them up.
I will see what I can do about them, In the meantime, Here are 3 examples of each notation. Each of these nine horses has either an SCW1,SCW2 or SCW3.
They are all from Santa Anita, I track the winner of every race every day,
So I picked these 9 horses because they all won the race
Here are the 3 SCW1 horses
48100
48101
48102
Bill V.
05-23-2019, 06:54 PM
Here are 3 SCW2's
48103
48104
48105
Bill V.
05-23-2019, 06:55 PM
Here are 3 winners who show the SCW3
48106
48107
48108
raceman5
05-24-2019, 09:18 AM
Bill, you are the man!!!!!!
Bob
P.S. Stay thirsty my friend.
Bill V.
05-24-2019, 03:05 PM
I am looking at the :4: horse for my horizontals
Excellent evenly spaced workouts, Arron Gryder has been working this youngster. He take the mount today
"MAY THE 4 HORSE BE WITH YOU"
48109
Bill V.
05-24-2019, 07:16 PM
The 4 ran well early but faded - watch her next race !!!
No fear I covered the 4 with the 2, 7, 8 in my pick 3. So I had a great start
for my day at SA $412 pick 3 #:5: :1: :2:
48110
48111
CheckMark
05-25-2019, 09:45 AM
Hi Bill:
Glad you are feeling better.
This is what I have on the SCW workouts.
Can you PM me a clearer photo of these please.
Conley
Mitch44
05-25-2019, 10:08 AM
Big congrats Bill, nothing better to bolster your sprit and health.
Mitch44
rmath
05-25-2019, 10:24 AM
Way to go Bill.
A very nice start to the Holiday weekend.
Keep it going,
Rmath
Bill V.
05-27-2019, 02:20 PM
Here is my key in the nice card at Santa Anita
Race 6 I like the fulcrum horse # 6 Wandering Patrol
She ran a little heavy on the early after a 300= day layoff
The works are solid both before and after the last race
48130
Mitch44
05-27-2019, 07:01 PM
Not my normal stuff as I'm working doing basically match up picks. I played the 4 & 6 in your key race. # 4 wins and alive for P-3 & P4 while just playing around. Most these races appear pretty predicable from a match up point.
Having some fun and hope you connect Bill in these later races.
ACCEPTED: 3a18d-66cfe https://www.twinspires.com/resources/shared/images/icons/cancel_grey.png
SA
#7
$0.50 Pick-4 2, 4, WT, 5, 7, WT, 2, 8, WT, 3, 8none $8.00 -
-
Claim Winnings
Claim Winnings
ACCEPTED: ec5d4-a688b SA (https://www.twinspires.com/php/rtb/toteresult_launcher.php?track=SA&race=6&type=1)
#6 (https://www.twinspires.com/php/rtb/toteresult_launcher.php?track=SA&race=6&type=1)
$0.50 Pick-3 4, 6, WT, 2, 4, WT, 5, 7none $4.00
Mitch44
Mitch44
05-27-2019, 07:56 PM
I just pick them and can't control what they pay etc.
COMPLETED: ec5d4-a688b SA (https://www.twinspires.com/php/rtb/toteresult_launcher.php?track=SA&race=6&type=1)
#6 (https://www.twinspires.com/php/rtb/toteresult_launcher.php?track=SA&race=6&type=1)
$0.50 Pick-34, 6, WT, 2, 4, WT, 5, 7none $4.00 $17.65
+ $13.65
Mitch44
Mitch44
05-27-2019, 08:51 PM
Well the longshot in the 9th blew my P-4 but I made up for it in the nightcap.
COMPLETED: 0d6c3-68ea6 SA (https://www.twinspires.com/php/rtb/toteresult_launcher.php?track=SA&race=10&type=1)
#10 (https://www.twinspires.com/php/rtb/toteresult_launcher.php?track=SA&race=10&type=1)
$7 Exacta 3, WT, 4, 7, 9 none $21.00 $88.90
+ $67.90
Claim Winnings
Claim Winnings
COMPLETED: 3ca70-72a7d SA (https://www.twinspires.com/php/rtb/toteresult_launcher.php?track=SA&race=10&type=1)
#10 (https://www.twinspires.com/php/rtb/toteresult_launcher.php?track=SA&race=10&type=1)
$2 ExactaBX, 3, 8none $4.00 $0.00
- $4.00
Claim Winnings
Claim Winnings
COMPLETED: 42994-f5944 SA (https://www.twinspires.com/php/rtb/toteresult_launcher.php?track=SA&race=10&type=1)
#10 (https://www.twinspires.com/php/rtb/toteresult_launcher.php?track=SA&race=10&type=1)
$3 Exacta 8, WT, 4, 7, 9 none $9.00 $0.00
- $9.00
Claim Winnings
Claim Winnings
COMPLETED: ea6cb-8a088 SA (https://www.twinspires.com/php/rtb/toteresult_launcher.php?track=SA&race=10&type=1)
#10 (https://www.twinspires.com/php/rtb/toteresult_launcher.php?track=SA&race=10&type=1)
$0.50 Trifecta 3, WT, 4, 7, 8, 9, WT, 4, 7, 8, 9 none $6.00 $23.45
+ $17.45
Mitch44
Bill V.
05-27-2019, 11:16 PM
Mitch I agree we can't control the payoffs
All we can do is only include true contenders
Therefore we can show a good profit.
I hit race 2,3, 4 for a pick 3
I hit my key race, race 6 7 and 8 for a better paying P3
48131
48132
Mitch44
05-28-2019, 06:12 AM
Glad you had a good day Bill and glad they had no accidents. They really went heavy on Gift Box out there and Vino Rossi paid a good price. I think he was rushed as a 3 yr. old and we'll hear from him again.
SA is a beautiful track.Keep hammering them Bill and bask in the great moments this sport gives us.
Best of health,
Mitch44
Bill V.
05-31-2019, 06:03 PM
I expect a decent EPR POR in this small field of fillies going 1 mile on the main
track
The 1 is my fulcrum with a 83.5
48139
Here is the last line of the 5 horses
The EPRs are nicely bunched, nobody is particularly early or late
48140
Bill V.
06-01-2019, 06:53 AM
While doing some research on my Santa Anita database, I came upon this race
from Jan31 2019
The :7: horse won the 6 horse placed and the 5 horse showed.
What is cool is the position of the remaining 4 horses
7,6,5,4,3,2.1
Just neat stuff I look for :)
Richie P = He's got ENERGY!!:cool:
48141
Mitch44
06-01-2019, 07:34 AM
# 3 Zusha a proven router presses the 1 hard all the way to take over in the stretch for the win. His last at 6.5 after a layoff used to sharpen speed and prep for today. Line one of fulcrum just not indicative of fulcrum or distance ability.
Mitch44
Bill V.
06-01-2019, 08:43 AM
Again you have no idea of what the fulcrum is meant to show
If you keep thinking the fulcrum horses is a rating toward the winner of the race
Your hate will keep blinding you. If you don't understand the concept of the fulcrum the why preach against it
I dislike fish , said the man in the seafood restaurant
The way the fulcrum was taught by Michael and Bert Mayne at several workshops in Albany ( miss those so much!) was to set up a race, using a logical pace time. After setting the fulcrum, they did form cycle analysis on races within +/- 2/5s of the fulcrum. Races that were faster were excused. That was part of the "wayback" machine.....a horse who met the fulcrum several liknes back and had been facing faster times recently. And the paceline of the fulcrum was not always the line you would use for that horse. It was a starting point. The last line was used to keep it recent, therefore more likely to be useful today.
The fulcrum was not a rating or a bet. It was a tool to use for selecting contenders and pacelines. Mike did advise to always check the fulcrum horse for its ability to wire the field and that enough of them did win regularly to make it worthwhile, but that was the extent of it. Like the energizer in Energy!
Bill V.
06-01-2019, 07:03 PM
Much thanks to Tom, That is an excellent helping post
It is very appreciated.
In the 7th race at SA today this is the only qualifying horse
The POR fulcrum is only a 70
This does not mean, this horse is a winning choice, just because it is the fulcrum What it shows is the expected pace of race should be rather slow
This horse is the fulcrum because it is the only horse in the last line within 1/2 furlongs of today's distance and surface (SA Turf)
I am alive in a pick 3 to the 1 6 and 8
48147
Bill V.
06-01-2019, 07:16 PM
I am at the Oceanside casino I am interested to see the fractions
The 1 and 8 run 1-2 and the fulcrum #2 finished 4th
my pick 3 pays $131 The table west has another pick 3 going
we are alive to the 2,4,5 in race 8
My dad Brooks Has hit the first pick 3 races 123
A 3 horse parlay Races 2,3,5. Race 5,6,7 pick 3. and we are all in on this last pick 3 race 6,7,8
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