Turf to Dirt Adjustments

[cprescigno]

I was looking at a race at Santa Anita Dec 30th. Actually the first race. WHen checking the pacelines I had one horse with only three turf races to choose from. Normally I would try to get away with leaving him out but I thought he was good enough to be included and wanted him in. I have been doing really well on this level dirt sprint at Santa Anita so I didn't want to pass since I only get one race like this on a card.
Ultimately I used a median of his three performances as a paceline. It was either blind dumb luck or beginner's luck but I picked the right paceline.
The BL tiers produced the finishing five horses in their exact positions and I made a few bucks here.

How can I manually make an adjustment from turf to dirt or the reverse if I come up with a similar situation?

[socantra]

Wow. That's a great question and I'd love to see some more responses.

I'm not at all sure that much adjustment is needed in sprint races. They usually get off a bit slower, but final times are not a whole lot different. In 5f and 5.5f turf sprints, the psrs are usually a little slower than dirt, probably because they don't get as good a starting kick on the slicker surface.

The longer they go, the faster the turf pars become as opposed to dirt, partially because its a softer surface to run on. At a 10 furlong race, I've seen estimates that turf times are as much as 5 ticks faster. Of course, the early pace is more liesurely.

Bottom line. I don't know. I suspect that at six furlongs, not a lot of adjustment is needed. Of course, you always run the risk that your hot turfer may not like the dirt and may not run a lick.

Any turf specialists out there?

dick...

[shoeless]

I dont know about sprints but when they switch a route race from turf to dirt the pros say always look for speed horses because the majority of the horses are closers.Jeff

[tompkins]

turf miles are very close to sprints and the only times you will see a goodly number of front runners do well so they lend themselves to dirt sprint comparisons

[dogkatcher]

It has been my experience that the Turf rating will boost the tier level in most cases, thus if not in top 2 or 3 tier levels, I remove them from consideration. Don't ya just hate it when those type of horses are in your special race LOL. Best of Luck

[shoeless]

I wont put turf lines into dirt and vice versa.I think Richie will and has hit some big ones doing this.But I could be wrong as usual.Jeff