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Ted Craven
09-30-2010, 11:47 AM
Here's an example race to illustrate alternate paceline selection strategies, and also to highlight FWIW one I am programming now and experimenting using in by betting practice.

This is Belmont Sept 30, race 5 (today). Following are 2 BL screenshots for Analysis, followed by Original and Primary Factors screens for each horse. For me, the object of this exercise is to highlight issues involved in a consistent line selection strategy and perhaps the strengths and weaknesses of each.

To me, line selection is just one step in race analysis and certainly not the last one. FWIW (and not the subject of this thread), my own rough order of attack is:

-studying the race conditions
-identify the mix of visual running styles E,s EP, P, S to check for lone Earlies or lone Lates and followed by eliminating non-contenders down to a bout 5 horses)
-select pacelines (including check if an alternate paceline also ranks the horse similar, e.g. multiple lines in Top 3 BL)
-eliminate non-contenders down to about 5 horses (I don't play tri or super bets currently and the Win and Place horse show up in my Top 5 a lot)
-check any models I may have
-note whether the top ranked BLs are 'suspicious' (e.g. based on an old race, different surface/distance)
-check the real-time odds (I really like it when my 2 horses are in the top 4 Win odds, even more if also in Top 4 Tote Xray ranks)
-make a bet if there is one (95% of the time 2 horses, else 1 low odds horse to Win or Win/Place on a higher odds horse)
-record the race result in my daily track betting sheet / note my emotional response to both a Win and Loss
-add the result to my overall betting log

That said, whether this line selection which follows leads to a Win or a Loss in this race is relatively immaterial to its functionality: I expect to lose 4 or 5 of every 10 races (though I don't prefer to) - I just don't know which ones I'm going to Win :)


Note: the card was canceled, so the examples are irrelevant. I'll put up something else soon :)

mikesal57
09-30-2010, 12:25 PM
Thxs Ted for showing us some of the work that your thinking about working into RDSS...

I'm sure your going to get a lot of input of paceline selections based on recent threads here but it will now be in the open for all to discuss..good luck :eek:

One idea for 2.0..

Maybe you can add into the config setup - settings on which paceline the USER whats to use

examples..

#1..RDSS
#2...best TE last 3
#3...in the money finish
#4...Speed rating

etc,etc

and just maybe the USER's own config

just an idea

mike

P.S-...in this race ..I like the 6 & 7

clore1030
09-30-2010, 01:30 PM
For the sake of argument, let's just say that the pace lines that you selected are the same ones that I would have determined.

I would have to go with the 5 horse as my own model has the top EPR horse in a six-furlong race winning at a 56% clip and the top FW horse coming in at 44%. This horse fits just fine, all that is needed for me to wager would be proper odds. I would need at least 3/1 in order to profit given my win% for the last 20-race cycle.

Alas, today's card is canceled, so we will never know.


EDITED TO ADD:
I should add that I tend to stay away from such a low claiming level given my own success rate in such things, thus I might set my odds requirement a bit higher.

Ted Craven
09-30-2010, 01:33 PM
Mike,

User defined Paceline Selection Strategies (PSS) is indeed where I'm headed. Including some presets such as you have suggested or as I describe above (and also including Last Line, from which FPLR), to be used either as is or tweaked further and saved as a New PSS. Actually, during the Data Centre Convert/Assemble process you can create several alternate Analysis sets from PSS's you're tracking and cycle among them while analysing a race.

The goal is consistency - not just how you do in one single race, but how the same, rigorous approach pans out over a series of races.

Ted

Ted Craven
09-30-2010, 01:36 PM
Alas, today's card is canceled, so we will never know.



Well dang! :mad: Should have checked the NYRA site before spending an hour on this...

Onwards.

Ted

clore1030
09-30-2010, 01:48 PM
Well dang! :mad: Should have checked the NYRA site before spending an hour on this...

Onwards.

Ted

My incredibly accurate left knee had been in such pain since waking up yesterday at 530am that I knew it was going to rain overnight. The severity of the pain is always an indication of the amount of precipitation. Thus I didn't even bother to download the card for today.

In the winter months, it's not the knee but the left ankle that predicts snow.

I trying to get both my knee and my ankle to predict equine events but so far have been unsuccessful.