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shoeless
02-20-2006, 07:07 AM
Im finding that most of the time when I do this the sprinter will project at or near the top of the readouts.Yesterday in the 8th at Philly which I was too stupid to play I used a 7 fur race for the 2 horse.Hopefully Binder can put it up because Im not adept at doing that.On the readout the 2 ranked 1st and the 5 second who won the race at 15-1.My thinking is now to leave these sprinters out of the distance races.Anyone else have any observations about this.Shoeless

admin
02-21-2006, 05:43 AM
Hi Shoeless

Yes I will rework the race for you
I also missed the 5 horse Really ? I wonder why I messed
up. Usually for me if I use a 7 .o line in a route and its the last line they do well.
At 15/1 too ??? strange

shoeless
02-21-2006, 06:08 AM
Bill,The sprinter going the route went off 6 to 5 and is still running.The 15 to 1 horse had run at a distance before.Sorry for the mixup but THANKS FOR THE REPLY.Jeff

tompkins
02-21-2006, 10:35 AM
Im finding that most of the time when I do this the sprinter will project at or near the top of the readouts.Yesterday in the 8th at Philly which I was too stupid to play I used a 7 fur race for the 2 horse.Hopefully Binder can put it up because Im not adept at doing that.On the readout the 2 ranked 1st and the 5 second who won the race at 15-1.My thinking is now to leave these sprinters out of the distance races.Anyone else have any observations about this.

all the more reason NOT to use a single line. If the sprinter does not project at close to the style for routers at that track, they should never be used. Was this the race? probably not

tompkins
02-21-2006, 01:30 PM
with the earlier programs, the formula for projection was not all that good. Later programs, ALONG WITH A TRACK THAT SHOWS THAT PROJECTIONS WORK, did a good job as this one today at Philly proved.

shoeless
02-21-2006, 04:45 PM
No it was the 8th at Philly on Sunday.I believe he didnt have any distance races at Philly,he did have one at Meadowlands.I was scared to use it because I read quite a few negatives about using Med lines.Shoeless

tompkins
02-21-2006, 05:08 PM
Unless the race is AT the Meadowlands, NEVER, I repeat, NEVER use lines from that track: they are FAR TOO FAST along with Canterbury, Lone Star, and Emerald Downs.

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:03 PM
Here is my failed attempt at race 8 from Philly on Sunday 0219

I will show you step by step what I did

Here are the conditions
The 4 9 and 10 were scratched

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:06 PM
Horse 1 going off odds 1.80- 1

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:09 PM
Horse 2 Going off odds *1.20 - 1

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:11 PM
Horse 3 odds 7.10 - 1
No line too slow

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:13 PM
Horse 5 the winner odds 16.60 - 1

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:15 PM
Horse 6 odds 10.50 - 1

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:17 PM
Horse 7 odds 8.60 - 1

My first bet

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:19 PM
Horse 8 odds 20.90 - 1

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:21 PM
Ok here is were I lost this race Notice that horse # 5 was ^ Total energy and 6 Primary line score

So I hid it and lost this race

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:24 PM
I will show you the rest of my screens
Here are my top 5

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:27 PM
Here is my BL/BL

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:34 PM
Here is the early late graph

Binder
02-21-2006, 06:37 PM
Jeff My bets were the 7 and the 8
I showed you and everyone all the horses and the paceline I used
I bet against both the 1 and the 3 who were too low odds to bet
and bet the 7 and took a chance with the lone early 8

shoeless
02-21-2006, 08:19 PM
I used all the pacelines you did except I left out the 8 because I felt he wasnt a distance horse.Using Synergism 3 I came up with 2,5,1,you wouldnt use the 2 because he was 6-5 he also was the one I used a sprint line for.But I dont play distance races so like a dummy I didnt have it.I guess using a velocity program vs an energy one you are going to get different readouts.Thanks for posting the race.Jeff