View Full Version : P.A.I.H.L 2012 Team Contest
Ted Craven
11-22-2011, 10:57 AM
The Team Contest is back this year and RDSS is a major sponsor with 3 month Unlimited RDSS PP+Charts Data prizes for each of the 3 team members. Last year's prize fund also included over $1000 cash.
Here is the signup link: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89301&page=1
Here are the rules of the Contest from last year: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78004 Essentially, teams of 3 collaborate on consensus picks in a number of higher class races each Saturday from beginning of January 2012 through Kentucky Derby Day. 2 or 3 picks are submitted to be scored for points in WPS and Exacta pools. Teams play each other in Divisions, then quarter, semi and final round eliminations.
Last year, our old friend and Matcher extraordinare Charlie D won the contest as part of 'Team Zenyatta'.
3 teams represented RDSS and 2 of them made it all the way to the Final round: Pens Pens RDSS finished in 4th Place overall (out of 50 teams, 150 players), comprising Rverge (Chef!), Chris D (cdax) and Gaz (and returning again this year); and team Squatheads finished in 8th position lead by the illustrious Dogkatcher, along with Goatchaser and Dodgerbecky (sure to reprise their plucky run this year).
Congratulations to all the PaceandCap members who performed so well!
Folks can use this thread to organize teams of 3, seek other team members, then post the consolidated team membership in the PaceAdvantage Team signup thread above. Remember, you have to be registered at PA, and if you are not already, you can do that here: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/register.php?
If you do field a team this year, it would be great if you could identify yourself with some kind of Sartin affiliation, e.g. RDSS, Matchup, other software, PaceandCap, etc.
Go get'em Teams!
Ted Craven
11-23-2011, 04:08 PM
RDSS Team Sartin is registered, consisting of:
Bill V
Bill Lyster
Ted Craven
Looking forward to a dozen more teams :eek: !
RDSS Team Sartin is registered, consisting of:
Bill V
Bill Lyster
Ted Craven
Looking forward to a dozen more teams :eek: !
Sounds like a formidable group. Best of luck!!
Jim
Rverge
11-23-2011, 05:34 PM
RDSS Team Sartin is registered, consisting of:
Bill V
Bill Lyster
Ted Craven
Looking forward to a dozen more teams :eek: !
WOW! i am asking sidney crosby to be our consultant!! 3 superstars on one team!
Ted Craven
11-23-2011, 05:35 PM
Jim,
I look forward to matching wits with you, if you play this Contest!
Any chance of snagging you for a RDSS team? Or a mixed team - (I know you are an eclectic fellow).
Ted
Ted Craven
11-23-2011, 05:38 PM
WOW! i am asking sidney crosby to be our consultant!! 3 superstars on one team!
Chef, we have our work cut out for us matching the performance of your team last year!
Best of luck and skill this year to you, Chris and Gaz.
But best news of all - Sid the Kid is baaack! Let's hope he stays safe from those head-bangers.
Jim,
I look forward to matching wits with you, if you play this Contest!
Any chance of snagging you for a RDSS team? Or a mixed team - (I know you are an eclectic fellow).
Ted
Hi Ted,
Between playing cash contests and my regular play, there is little time left for me to concentrate on other contests. I have been playing a bunch on the Derby Wars contest site when I get in the mood to match wits with others. I do enjoy playing in them. I have backed off the National contest scene some as I perceive less value for me to the contests than in the past.
Best of luck to all the RDSS teams!!
Jim
Wow, Ted.
Bringing in the ringers.
I also hope we get more teams to represent from here to show 'em what this group 'cappers can do.
Best of luck to you, your team and all who participate.
Chris
partsnut
11-24-2011, 05:33 AM
cdax:
Wow, Ted.
Bringing in the ringers.
I also hope we get more teams to represent from here to show 'em what this group 'cappers can do.
Best of luck to you, your team and all who participate.
Chris
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Possibly those that wish to participate on a team should list themselves here so that more teams can be created.
In deference to this site, names for the newly formed teams should refer to
RDSS and/or The Sartin Methodology. Ex. Sartinista Pro's (RDSS)
It's a long protracted affair (Marathon) but it should be fun to compete against your friends and peers.
Are you in ???
Ted Craven
11-24-2011, 08:57 AM
And, just to be clear - you don't need to be using RDSS: any tool or approach reflective of the Sartin Methodology is great: Matchup practitioners, Synergism, Validator, Speculator, Energy/KGen, etc, etc.
It's all good!
Ted
Jay Trotter
11-25-2011, 05:22 PM
I just thought I would drop by and welcome RDSS, Pace and Cap, and the whole Sartin Methodology community to the newly created PaceAdvantage.com Challenge Series. I am especially pleased to offer congratulations to Ted Craven for stepping up in such a big way to give back to the handicapping community. Truly, a commitment to the game we love.
RDSS has come on board as the title sponsor for the series, one that should prove to be the equal of the very best handicapping competitions out there.
We are very pleased to bring you a variety of handicapping formats including ROI, Team play, Bankroll Building, Parlay play and Match play just to name a few. Competitions are designed to allow the individual player to participate at a manageable pace. We want quality not quantity!
Once again, we look forward to the participation of the RDSS Teams! That was quite a showing last season.
We trust you'll enjoy the competitions as much as we look forward to organizing them. Special thanks to Ted -- your passion and energy shines through in all you do.
Trotter
pktruckdriver
11-25-2011, 06:31 PM
I would like to participate , but have no team, last year I had a foreign team , ( a HSH team ), not this year, thou.
This year I would like to be a RDSS team and will be available to whoever needs a team member.
This will be a weekly thing, no matter what format, I hope, as a daily thing may be too much, for now, but weekly is no problem.
If you have room , or want to form a team please post here or PM me, and we can work things out, last year was fun and RDSS did extremely well.
Best Wishes
patrick
partsnut
11-25-2011, 09:43 PM
pktruckdriver:
I would like to participate , but have no team, last year I had a foreign team , ( a HSH team ), not this year, thou.
This year I would like to be a RDSS team and will be available to whoever needs a team member.
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Hi Patrick,
I know you are a hard worker and good people, I would be happy to be on the same team with you.
We need one more member.
I came up with the name "Sartinista Pros (RDSS)".
If you have a better name, feel free to make a suggestion.
If this sits well with you, let me know.
So now if all goes well, we need another member to complete the team.
It's a wide open affair and luck has a lot to do with it. Any team can win.
Ted Craven
11-25-2011, 09:48 PM
I just thought I would drop by and welcome RDSS, Pace and Cap, and the whole Sartin Methodology community to the newly created PaceAdvantage.com Challenge Series. I am especially pleased to offer congratulations to Ted Craven for stepping up in such a big way to give back to the handicapping community. Truly, a commitment to the game we love.
RDSS has come on board as the title sponsor for the series, one that should prove to be the equal of the very best handicapping competitions out there.
We are very pleased to bring you a variety of handicapping formats including ROI, Team play, Bankroll Building, Parlay play and Match play just to name a few. Competitions are designed to allow the individual player to participate at a manageable pace. We want quality not quantity!
Once again, we look forward to the participation of the RDSS Teams! That was quite a showing last season.
We trust you'll enjoy the competitions as much as we look forward to organizing them. Special thanks to Ted -- your passion and energy shines through in all you do.
Trotter
Thank you Jay for stopping by and sharing a few more details of this batch of contests. I don't know how you manage to do all the organization you do - I hope PA is paying you the big bucks (or passing on some hot tips :eek:).
Trying to organize as much participation as possible - there are people here who really know their stuff.
Hopefully as new developments arise, you can let us know more details.
cheers,
Ted
partsnut
11-26-2011, 01:49 PM
pktruckdriver:
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Hi Patrick,
I know you are a hard worker and good people, I would be happy to be on the same team with you.
We need one more member.
I came up with the name "Sartinista Pros (RDSS)".
If you have a better name, feel free to make a suggestion.
If this sits well with you, let me know.
So now if all goes well, we need another member to complete the team.
It's a wide open affair and luck has a lot to do with it. Any team can win.
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Being as I didn't get any responses and because of personal issues,
I'm going to retract my offer and stay out of this competition.
I don't think I will have the time to get involved.
Good luck to all the RDSS teams.
Ted Craven
11-26-2011, 01:55 PM
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Being as I didn't get any responses and because of personal issues,
I'm going to retract my offer and stay out of this competition.
I don't think I will have the time to get involved.
Good luck to all the RDSS teams.
Bill,
You might have to give it a little more time for folks to check in, say the weekend? There are 5 weeks to go before anything begins. Of course if time commitment is the main issue, well that is different.
For my team, I know I won't be able to participate every Saturday for 4 months (most though), and that's where the other team members can take over for carrying the team.
If you do decide to continue, I wish you every success!
Ted
chrisl
11-26-2011, 02:36 PM
I am interested . Chris
partsnut
11-26-2011, 03:35 PM
Ted Craven:
Bill,
You might have to give it a little more time for folks to check in, say the weekend? There are 5 weeks to go before anything begins. Of course if time commitment is the main issue, well that is different.
For my team, I know I won't be able to participate every Saturday for 4 months (most though), and that's where the other team members can take over for carrying the team.
If you do decide to continue, I wish you every success!
Ted
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Ted, I think you know that I have been an active contest player and competitor. I would love to represent an RDSS team but I'm really not up to it.
I won the P.A.I H.L in 2010
However, my life drastically changed during last years contest and I was almost not there to finish it.
I promised myself that I would lighten up and reduce any stress I might incur.
There's no one that likes contest play and team competition better then me but I'm not the same person I was a year ago. I don't feel I have the endurance and/or mindset for a 4 month stint. There's just too much going on in my life and I have to concentrate on my priorities.
I won the P.A.I H.L in 2010
Team 34: partsnutpage (partsnutpage.freeforums.org)
Jake - Shoelessjoe - Partsnut
P.A.I.H.L. CHAMPIONSHIP FINAL RESULTS
1st Place
Team 6: Team Zenyatta (Zenyatta)$ 764.40
thaskalos - gm10 - Charlie D
If you were on two teams Bill, I'm gonna be very upset. Others were confronted about doing such things.
Did you win?
partsnut
11-26-2011, 05:37 PM
Team 34: partsnutpage (partsnutpage.freeforums.org)
Jake - Shoelessjoe - Partsnut
P.A.I.H.L. CHAMPIONSHIP FINAL RESULTS
1st Place
Team 6: Team Zenyatta (Zenyatta)$ 764.40
thaskalos - gm10 - Charlie D
If you were on two teams Bill, I'm gonna be very upset. Others were confronted about doing such things.
Did you win?
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I won that year but you are right.
My Mistake. It was the PTCHC
Actually, the examples you posted were for 2011
How many did you win?
Ted Craven
11-26-2011, 05:38 PM
I think perhaps partsnut was referring to an earlier PA Contest he won, and not the inaugural PAIHL Team contest from early 2011, which I would have noticed and been all over with congratulations.
(And parts, congratulations on that earlier contest win!)
Here: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68020
Ted
My apologies, I should have noticed he did say 2010.
Sorry Parts.
So far, 4th place was best I did.
partsnut
11-26-2011, 06:00 PM
My apologies, I should have noticed he did say 2010.
Sorry Parts.
So far, 4th place was best I did.
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No problem.
4th place is very respectable.
Next time you'll win.
Jay Trotter
11-27-2011, 10:18 PM
Ted Craven:
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Ted, I think you know that I have been an active contest player and competitor. I would love to represent an RDSS team but I'm really not up to it.
I won the P.A.I H.L in 2010
However, my life drastically changed during last years contest and I was almost not there to finish it.
I promised myself that I would lighten up and reduce any stress I might incur.
There's no one that likes contest play and team competition better then me but I'm not the same person I was a year ago. I don't feel I have the endurance and/or mindset for a 4 month stint. There's just too much going on in my life and I have to concentrate on my priorities.
partsnut,
First off, sorry to hear about your health issues. Never good to hear!
Second, the Kentucky Oaks - Kentucky Derby was two seasons ago, so I can confirm no shinanigans regarding the P.A.I.H.L. last year.
Finally, if you enjoy Contests like I do but don't want or need the stress like me, you are in good company. I personally don't enjoy the burden of over extending myself to the point where handicapping becomes a job. I always keep this in mind when designing the various contests.
In my case, especially because I'm so busy organizing, scoring and managing contests like the P.A.I.H.L. I rely on my teammates to lesson the load. The league only runs Saturdays and only has 8 races. Some teams colaborate on every race. My team divides the races up, so that one guy does the first 3 races, another the 2nd set of 3 races, and I close with only 2 races. I do the 2 races by choice to lesson my load. This worked out great for us. When one of us is away for a weekend the others cover.
Based on what I've seen at Pace and Cap I would suggest that you have a very strong community with a high level of respect. I don't think you would be in too tough to find teammates that would work well in meeting your particular needs.
I would urge you to participate to the best of your ability and rely on your teammates.
All the best,
Jay Trotter
partsnut
11-28-2011, 07:25 AM
Jay Trotter:
First off, sorry to hear about your health issues. Never good to hear
Finally, if you enjoy Contests like I do but don't want or need the stress like me, you are in good company. I personally don't enjoy the burden of over extending myself to the point where handicapping becomes a job. I always keep this in mind when designing the various contests.
Based on what I've seen at Pace and Cap I would suggest that you have a very strong community with a high level of respect. I don't think you would be in too tough to find teammates that would work well in meeting your particular needs.
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Jay,
Thank you for your concern on my behalf.
It is very much appreciated.
I would never deny the fact that you and PaceAdvantage have done an outstanding job in providing some great entertainment to it's members and horse racing fans across the internet.
You have always been a creative, hard working fair person and I personally have always appreciated and respected you for that.
This has been a very tough year for me. I've had an assortment of issues
that has turned my life upside down. The main issue was a life threatening health issue. Thank G_D I'm feeling better now and have to try and get my life back in order. This is my first priority.
PaceandCap' has some very astute handicappers that I would take pride
in participating with in this years team competition but I don't feel that at this point, I'm physically or mentally up for the challenge. As well, I would never want to be a burden to any team. I've always carried my own weight.
I may enter some of the individual events if possible and time permits.
I wish you success in all your endeavors.
Jay Trotter
11-28-2011, 10:05 AM
Family and health first. I wish you all the best.
Trotter
pktruckdriver
11-28-2011, 01:54 PM
Best of health, my friend, maybe next time, guess I can list as a Free Agent on PA, board but felt better being here on this board and not being a mixed team as last year.
I guess 5 weeks till I need something done so maybe it will be plenty of time to find a few team members, .
Patrick
Ted Craven
11-28-2011, 02:47 PM
Best of health, my friend, maybe next time, guess I can list as a Free Agent on PA, board but felt better being here on this board and not being a mixed team as last year.
I guess 5 weeks till I need something done so maybe it will be plenty of time to find a few team members, .
Patrick
Patrick, don't forget chrisl (http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpost.php?p=75946&postcount=17). You're 2/3rd of the way to a team.
Ted
pktruckdriver
11-30-2011, 10:59 PM
Patrick, don't forget chrisl (http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpost.php?p=75946&postcount=17). You're 2/3rd of the way to a team.
Ted
Well Chrisl, I guess I would be honored to have a fellow Alaskan as a team member, I called Ketchikan the city of Stairs, as everything went up from the water line.
If interested, just answer this thread, I do okay when I put my mind to it, in case you were wanting to actually win this thing, well I think I could hold my own, and then if you only wanted to participate and have fun, then well I could do that too, either way, it is that I just would like to do this with fellow Sartinite's, but soon I will go Free agent on the PA board, and see what happens.
Best Patrick
buffaloxp
12-02-2011, 12:44 AM
Well Chrisl, I guess I would be honored to have a fellow Alaskan as a team member, I called Ketchikan the city of Stairs, as everything went up from the water line.
If interested, just answer this thread, I do okay when I put my mind to it, in case you were wanting to actually win this thing, well I think I could hold my own, and then if you only wanted to participate and have fun, then well I could do that too, either way, it is that I just would like to do this with fellow Sartinite's, but soon I will go Free agent on the PA board, and see what happens.
Best Patrick
Patrick
i am new in RDSS , and ted sand me a e-mail , if you ok with it , i will join with you for a team
thankyou
raymond
barb craven
12-02-2011, 07:55 AM
We have a new team registered as RDSS Dangerous Old Dams consisting of
Barb Craven (Canadagoose)
Old Gray Mare (Old Arkie Gal)
Lumberjack
Registration went through this morning.
Jay Trotter
12-02-2011, 09:28 AM
Barb, glad to see you got yourself signed up! Glad to have you aboard. Best of luck and good racing.
Trotter
pktruckdriver
12-03-2011, 12:59 AM
Patrick
i am new in RDSS , and ted sand me a e-mail , if you ok with it , i will join with you for a team
thankyou
raymond
Well Raymond, if Ted sent you that is good enough for me, still waiting for Chris to answer and see if he still wants to be a member of this team.
I was thinking maybe the Los Tres Ganadores, The Three Winners, as a team name, but will settle for pretty much anything , even 3 Guys, would do.
I may be too busy to be a Captain thou, could you or Chris handle that?
Well I will check back too see what happens here, welcome to RDSS Raymond
patrick
buffaloxp
12-03-2011, 02:05 AM
Well Raymond, if Ted sent you that is good enough for me, still waiting for Chris to answer and see if he still wants to be a member of this team.
I was thinking maybe the Los Tres Ganadores, The Three Winners, as a team name, but will settle for pretty much anything , even 3 Guys, would do.
I may be too busy to be a Captain thou, could you or Chris handle that?
Well I will check back too see what happens here, welcome to RDSS Raymond
patrick
Thank patrick, you can choose a team name you like, i ok with it, i am new ,so you were be a captain for us, but i were help, i own a buffalo wings store,need to work on daytime, so i were help on night time, thankagain
raymond
pktruckdriver
12-03-2011, 11:17 AM
Thank patrick, you can choose a team name you like, i ok with it, i am new ,so you were be a captain for us, but i were help, i own a buffalo wings store,need to work on daytime, so i were help on night time, thankagain
raymond
Where's your store , I could use some wings now and then, is it in Buffalo?
Still waiting for Chris, guess, he gets to name the team and maybe be captain, as captain I think makes the posting of our wagering choices, and if I take the winter off and get out of the truck to do some Physical Therapy , then I can do it, ya need a wing cooker, lol, how bout a new shop in Grand Forks, just kidding.
Patrick
buffaloxp
12-04-2011, 01:46 AM
Where's your store , I could use some wings now and then, is it in Buffalo?
Still waiting for Chris, guess, he gets to name the team and maybe be captain, as captain I think makes the posting of our wagering choices, and if I take the winter off and get out of the truck to do some Physical Therapy , then I can do it, ya need a wing cooker, lol, how bout a new shop in Grand Forks, just kidding.
Patrick
my wing store is in auburn alabama, 50% of the auburn football player is my customer, if you come to auburn , buffalo wings is your dinner.
Ted sand me a e-mail hope we can use RDSS TEAM NAME, i told him put a name for us and we were use it, hope you were ok
thank
raymond
pktruckdriver
12-04-2011, 01:43 PM
Auburn Tigers, an SEC guy , been there a few times myself , I remember Willie's I think, oh well , I been offered a few other spots on teams outside of RDSS, but prefer to stay here, so I too agree Ted can name us and get us 1 more person to join and that is fine by me, and hopefully we can do him proud.
patrick
RDSS Rebels, ??
Ted Craven
12-05-2011, 09:10 AM
I don't want to name any team - each team should express their own individuality, choose their own team name. (I was only requesting that you identify yourselves as RDSS users, or PaceandCap members, or Matchers, or whatever).
I have been gently suggesting to a few folks behind the scenes that they consider checking here if they are interested in a team Contest (or contest play at all). Contests (or teams) are not some peoples' cup of tea, though.
Ted
buffaloxp
12-06-2011, 12:48 AM
Auburn Tigers, an SEC guy , been there a few times myself , I remember Willie's I think, oh well , I been offered a few other spots on teams outside of RDSS, but prefer to stay here, so I too agree Ted can name us and get us 1 more person to join and that is fine by me, and hopefully we can do him proud.
patrick
RDSS Rebels, ??
RDSS Rebels---------JUST DO IT
maryg
12-06-2011, 12:32 PM
Lumberjack signing for RDSS Dangerous Old Dams
Ted Craven
12-06-2011, 01:03 PM
Way to go Mary! Actually, you have to do the 'official' sign-in on PaceAdvantage, in this thread: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=89301
Best of luck and skill to you, Pat and Mum. Dangerous Old Dams indeed (only about a half-century of Sartin Methodology experience between you three)!
:)
Ted
pktruckdriver
12-07-2011, 11:05 AM
I am interested . Chris
Sir Are you still out there and maybe interested in joining our RDSS Rebel's team?
Time is nearing that we need to find a 3 person, if you're not interested, maybe you could let us know and we can shop for a great free agent, I think Albert Pujols is still out there, lol...
thank you
patrick
chrisl
12-07-2011, 10:09 PM
Yes I am ready Patrick. Chrisl
Jay Trotter
12-07-2011, 10:35 PM
Lumberjack signing for RDSS Dangerous Old Dams
I am registering my name as "Lumberjack" for the Dangerous Old Dams.
mary gionet
I have a mary gionet wanting to sign up as Lumberjack --- but your user name is mary gionet??? If you want to be Lumberjack you have to sign up as a PA member with the username Lumberjack.
Trotter
barb craven
12-07-2011, 11:37 PM
She thought she could just change her user name. She has signed up again on PA as Lumberjack and is awaiting confirmation.
Jay Trotter
12-08-2011, 08:40 AM
Hey Ted I just noticed this.....
Jay Trotter (http://paceandcap.com/forums/member.php?u=4596)
AlwNW1X
Now, just because my North American lines are light, that shouldn't alter my obvious class. I'm Graded Stakes Euro shipper!:D
Ted Craven
12-08-2011, 09:01 AM
Hey Ted I just noticed this.....
Jay Trotter (http://paceandcap.com/forums/member.php?u=4596)
AlwNW1X
Now, just because my North American lines are light, that shouldn't alter my obvious class. I'm Graded Stakes Euro shipper!:D
Only another couple hundred posts to go and your true worth will be recognized!
Ted
maryg
12-08-2011, 11:49 AM
I have a mary gionet wanting to sign up as Lumberjack --- but your user name is mary gionet??? If you want to be Lumberjack you have to sign up as a PA member with the username Lumberjack.
Trotter
I want to sign up a Lumberjack for the Dangerous Old Dams
Ted Craven
12-08-2011, 12:02 PM
Mary,
I think the thing to do is - register a NEW User Name at PaceAdvantage and name it Lumberjack (go here: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/register.php?)
Then when that new Lumberjack User Name is approved at PaceAdvantage (it takes a few days), check into the PAIHL Team thread with your new Lumberjack User Name (and not the Mary name you already registered), and make a post signing in and saying you are a member of that Team (just like you did already with your Mary user name, but just with the Lumberjack user name).
The PaceAdvantage PAIHL Team sign-in thread is here: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=89301
Mary, your alternative would be to simply go ahead and use the User Name you already set up at PA: mary gionet, instead of Lumberjack.
Good luck!
Ted
Ted Craven
12-09-2011, 09:59 AM
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Ted Craven
12-09-2011, 10:02 AM
2012 P.A.I.H.L. RULES
1. TEAMS
· Each team consists of three individual players.
· An individual may only compete on one team in the league and only participate with one PaceAdvantage identity. Failure to comply with this rule will result in disqualification of the player and his team(s).
· Each player must be a registered member of PaceAdvantage.com
· Teams may represent other handicapping forums; handicapping products; race tracks; or simply be a group of three individual handicappers.
2. REGISTRATION
· Players may register individually as free agents to be placed with others to form a team of three.
· Teams can enter as a complete unit of three.
· Registration may be capped at any time.
· Registration will close on Saturday, December 31st.
3. SCHEDULE
· Exhibition Game Saturday, December 31, 2011
· League Games Saturdays from January 7th to Saturday, April 16th, 2011 (15 games)
· Playoffs Saturday, April 23rd & Saturday, April 30th
· Finals Friday, May 6th & Saturday, May 7th (2 Day Final Churchill Downs)
· Each contest will consist of 8 North American thoroughbred races as selected by the Schedule Master.
· Only races with Free Brisnet PPs will be considered.
4. METHOD OF PLAY
· Each team posts 3 selections; a 1st alternate; and a 2nd alternate per race.
· Alternate selections are only used if one of the original selections are scratched.
· Competition is based on Win/Place/Show and Exacta payouts using the top three playable selections per team.
· A team may opt to post only 2 selections per race instead of 3 in which case the top choice will receive double credit.
5. SCORING
· Teams will receive the pari-mutuel payout for Win/Place/Show of all three of their selections. 1st Selection will be $6.00 WPS; 2nd Selection will be $4.00 WPS; and 3rd Selection will be $2.00 WPS. (Total wagered = $36.00)
· Teams will receive the pari-mutuel payout for the Exacta based on Exacta Boxes for their top three selections; or as Weighted Exactas for their top two selections. Exactas will be $3.00 Exacta Box. (Total wagered = $18.00)
· If the top choice is scratched the team will be scored on their top 3 selections with no double credit for the top choice.
· If a situation arises where multiple scratches occur the team will be scored only on those alternates available from the team selection post.
· Examples of how to post selections for team:3 Selection Method
3 7 4 (12 8) top 3 picks with the alternates being 12 & 8 in that order.
Team would receive $6.00 WPS payouts for #3
Team would receive $4.00 WPS payouts for #7
Team would receive $2.00 WPS payouts for #4
Team would receive $3.00 Exacta Box Payout using #3, #7 & #4 ($18.00)
2 Selection Method
3 3 7 (4 12) top 2 picks with the alternates being 4 & 12 in that order.
Team would receive $6.00 WPS payouts for #3
Team would receive $4.00 WPS payouts for #3
Team would receive $2.00 WPS payouts for #7
The #3 would receive double credits on all Exacta tickets
Team would receive (4x) $3.00 payouts for 3-7 Exacta ($12.00)
and (2x) $3.00 payouts for 7-3 Exacta ($6.00) (Total = $18.00)
6. POSTING
· One member for each team will be responsible to post the selections on behalf of their team.
· All posts must be made one full minute prior to the first official post time.
· A late post will only be scored on races that run a full minute after the post.
· Teams are allowed to make only one post per contest but will be allowed to edit that post only for the brief editing period as allowed by PaceAdvantage. No other alterations are allowed after that first post.
· Coupled entries are considered one interest.
7. POINTS
· For 2012 all teams will compete against each other each week in Full Field games (no Divisions or Conferences)
· Points for each type of contest will be awarded as follows:
Full Field Games - 1 Point per Team beaten
8. PLAYOFFS
· Total number of Playoff Teams will be based on Final Entries (to be determined)
· Quarter-Finals will have 32 Teams.
· Semi-Finals will have 16 Teams.
· The two-days Final will consist of the top 8 teams advancing.
9. SPIRIT OF THE GAME
· As this is a Free Entry contest, should for any reason a situation arise where the rules don't specifically address the issue, a ruling "in the spirit of the game" shall be made by the moderators, PaceAdvantage or Jay Trotter, in the best interest of all competitors.
· Inappropriate conduct by any player will not be tolerated. If a player behaves in a manner deemed inappropriate he shall forfeit his claim to any prizes. The discretion of the moderators shall be final.
RULES POSTED AT DECEMBER 8, 2011
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Ted Craven
12-09-2011, 10:13 AM
I am proud to announce that 5 teams so far representing RDSS will be competing in this Contest:
Pens Pens RDSS (finalists, finished 4th last year, out of 50 teams)
Squatheads RDSS (finalists, finished 8th last year)
RDSS Team Sartin
RDSS Dangerous Old Dams
RDSS Rebels
There are still folks out there considering forming or joining teams. If anyone is interested, please just post here to try to connect with others, then sign-up at PaceAdvantage, here: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89301&page=1
Team Sign-up deadline and exhibition (i.e. practice) game is Saturday December 31, 2011. First regular league game is Saturday January 7, 2012.
Good luck - and good skill - to all the Teams!
Ted
Procefus
12-28-2011, 05:18 PM
RDSS Team Texas: Botc, CN7272, and Procefus
Ted Craven
12-29-2011, 11:02 PM
Best wishes for good luck and skill to all 6 teams participating in the PAIHL Team competition. By far the largest representation of any handicapping community or software in the whole Contest!
Pens Pens RDSS
Squatheads RDSS
RDSS Team Sartin
RDSS Dangerous Old Dams
RDSS Rebels
RDSS Team Texas
There is still time to form a team - the deadline is apparently January 7 - the date of the first official round, not December 31, the practice round.
Also, there may be room for one single individual on an orphaned team from last year missing an RDSS player this year - the waggishly named Craven's Ravens :eek: (I have no connection ...). Consider PM'ing the returning team-members mentioned in this post --> here (http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1209470&postcount=204).
To form a team, just get 3 people together and announce yourselves in this thread --> here (http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89301).
Ted
Ted Craven
12-29-2011, 11:06 PM
OFFICAL RACE SCHEDULE
For Saturday, December 31, 2011
First Post at 3:21 PM EST
Event 1- Gulfstream Race 8 1 3/8 Mile (Turf) AN1X
Event 2- Gulfstream Race 9 1 1/8 Mile (Dirt) MSW
Event 3- Gulfstream Race 10 1 1/16 Mile (Turf) AOC
Event 4- Fairgrounds Race 7 5.5F (Turf) AN1X
Event 5- Fairgrounds Race 9 1 Mile (Turf) AOC
Event 6- Hawthorne Race 8 6F (Dirt) AOC
Event 7- Santa Anita Race 7 1 Mile (Turf) Stakes
Event 8- Santa Anita Race 8 7F (Dirt) G1
Teams, please post your picks here: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90184
Do not post the team picks here at Pace and Cap (well, you sure can post them here as well, but they only count for the Contest if you post them in the Contest thread above :) ).
Ted
Rverge
12-30-2011, 07:49 PM
good luck all yenz contenders!! PENS PENS RDSS---->RULES:D team 29:p
Ted Craven
12-31-2011, 01:42 PM
good luck all yenz contenders!! PENS PENS RDSS---->RULES:D team 29:p
Good luck and skill to you, Chef and all the Pens!
Ted
Thanks Ted.
Good luck to everyone here. As of this post RDSS is kickin' some butt in this practice round.
Looks to be a very competitive contest this year.
Chris
Congrats to all the RDSS teams that played in the practice round but especially the Dams for a fantastic showing. I have a feeling the other teams are going to know just how "dangerous" you are before the contest ends.
Jim
Ted Craven
01-01-2012, 06:27 PM
Not sure if this is 100% 'official' but here are the results of the practice round yesterday. Jcapper team in front by a nose, with 4 other RDSS teams in hot pursuit, and 2 other ones finishing up the track a ways. For better and for worse, one day does not tell the tale - we're working out the kinks here.. BUT - congratulations to the teams - I know everyone gave it their all!
Looking forward to the opening round next Saturday.
24 Team JCapper1 $ 678.50
29 Team pens pens rdss (rdss) $ 663.20
34 TEXAS RDSS (RDSS) $ 657.80
16 RDSS Dangerous Old Dams (RDSS) $ 609.40
37 The Parlay Kings (PaceAdvantage.com) $ 590.40
42 The Tote Busters $ 514.60
31 Team RDSS Rebels (RDSS) $ 511.60
30 Team PickMaster $ 507.20
20 Team Casino $ 490.40
43 Score The Gold $ 475.60
1 Assiniboia Cappers (Assinboia Downs) $ 459.00
12 New and Improved $ 448.60
3 Da Cappers (e-ponies.com) $ 425.80
41 The Sunshine Pros $ 397.60
9 Inquiry $ 375.40
14 Pace Pals Pete & the Autopickers (iHandicapOnline.com/pacepals.com) $ 369.00
26 Team NFS $ 346.60
27 Team Overlay (Overlay Publications) $ 336.40
32 Team TVG (tvg.com) $ 326.60
38 The RoughRiders (HottalkersTwo) $ 317.20
7 Horizon Racing Stable (horizonracingstable.com) $ 312.60
18 Squatheads (RDSS) $ 292.20
8 Hottalkers1 $ 289.20
17 RDSS Team Sartin - (RDSS) $ 275.20
33 Team Z (Rob only) $ 271.80
25 Team Las Vegas $ 261.20
13 On The Short Line - (e-ponies.com) $ 229.40
15 Pucks & Ponies $ 214.20
11 Masters of Futility $ 196.80
40 The Spot Players $ 194.40
22 Team Dynaformer $ 173.40
28 Team PaceAdvantage (PaceAdvantage.com) $ 159.80
6 GOLD RUNNERS $ 156.20
35 The Inglorious Basterds $ 106.40
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Old Arkie Gal
01-03-2012, 06:17 PM
Yes, it was nice to be near the top of the heap, even though it didn't last long. Make no mistake we still like where we ended up.
Pat H.
Jay Trotter
01-03-2012, 08:05 PM
Congrats to the whole RDSS gang
Glad to see such great enthusiasm and commeraderie
Hopefully, I'll hold up my end and have my sheet working
pktruckdriver
01-04-2012, 09:12 PM
I am interested . Chris
Looking for lost team member, has anyone seen this guy, we need him this weekend.
Please pm or email pktruckdriver@msn.com
Thanks patrick
chrisl
01-04-2012, 09:50 PM
I am still here. I had to work a long weekend. I should have been off on Saturday, did not happen. I will be ready this weekend. Chris
Ted Craven
01-05-2012, 07:32 PM
Here are the races for Round 1 of the PAIHL Team competition, this Saturday January 7.
Event 1- Aqueduct Race 6- 1mile70yds (Dirt) clm7500
Event 2- Philadelphia Race 7 - 6.5 fur (Dirt) Str All
Event 3- Gulfstream Race 8 - 9 fur (Turf) clm25000
Event 4- Santa Anita Race 2 - 9 fur (Turf) StrAll
Event 5- Gulfstream Race 9 - 7 fur (Dirt) AOC
Event 6- Fairgrounds Race 9 - 1 mile (Turf) Stakes- Statebred
Event 7- Gulfstream Race 10 - 8.5 fur (Turf) Grade 3
Event 8- Gulfstream Race 11 - 1 mile (Turf) Mdnclm 75000
First Post Time 2:41 PM EST
Please post Team picks in this thread at PaceAdvantage: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1213039
Good luck to all the Teams!
Ted
barb craven
01-07-2012, 07:14 PM
Congratulations to the RDSS Rebels for coming in second in the first week of play.
pktruckdriver
01-07-2012, 07:22 PM
Now also let us not forget another top 10 finish for the
RDSS Dangerous Old Dams (RDSS) Finishing 6th
Now if we stay consisitent, which is what Docs teaches us so often, consisitency is the key , staying true to your way of picking your lines and making your hides and thru being conssisitent you will be able to better evaulaute yourself.
Sorry just meant to say great job Old Dams
patrick
Procefus
01-08-2012, 06:04 PM
Contemplating a name change for Texas RDSS........
"The 'O'fers".......Sleep Mode was on! Lol:)
Sleepy
Jay Trotter
01-12-2012, 10:32 PM
Quick Post
The P.A.I.H.L. Schedule has been posted
Ted Craven
01-12-2012, 10:34 PM
Event 1 - Tampa Bay 5 clm16000 8.5 fur Turf
Event 2 - Tampa Bay 8 Stakes 7 fur Dirt
Event 3 - Gulfstream 8 AOC 8.5 fur Turf
Event 4 - Tampa Bay 10 Stakes 1 mile Dirt
Event 5 - Gulfstream 10 G3 8.5 fur Dirt
Event 6 - Fairgrounds 8 MSW 5.5 fur Dirt
Event 7 - Santa Anita 5 MSW 1 mile Turf
Event 8 - Santa Anita 7 AOC 6.5 fur Turf
First Post at 2:18 PM Eastern
Post picks here: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1216864
Good luck Teams!
Ted
pktruckdriver
01-14-2012, 06:54 PM
Contemplating a name change for Texas RDSS........
"The 'O'fers".......Sleep Mode was on! Lol:)
Sleepy
Y'all just gave everyone a weeks head start, great showing this week, Congrats is in order. :):)
Patrick
barb craven
01-14-2012, 08:11 PM
A big congratulations to Texas RDSS for coming back this week and vaulting right up into 1st place. (aren't you glad now you didn't change your name?);)
Ted Craven
01-14-2012, 08:26 PM
A big congratulations to Team Texas RDSS for a thrilling come from behind move this week! A very honourable mention to the Dangerous Old Dams.
TEAM TOTAL TEAM NAME
34 $ 851.70 TEXAS RDSS (RDSS)
41 $ 824.20 The Sunshine Pros
27 $ 810.40 Team Overlay (Overlay Publications)
33 $ 763.80 Team Zenyatta
32 $ 657.90 Team TVG (tvg.com)
16 $ 611.50 RDSS Dangerous Old Dams (RDSS)
37 $ 604.60 The Parlay Kings (PaceAdvantage.com)
23 $ 576.80 Team Gapfire - (gapfire.com)
26 $ 540.00 Team NFS
25 $ 498.00 Team Las Vegas
18 $ 482.90 Squatheads (RDSS)
5 $ 478.00 FREE AGENT TEAM 2
28 $ 459.30 Team PaceAdvantage (PaceAdvantage.com)
3 $ 452.40 Da Cappers (e-ponies.com)
29 $ 412.50 Team pens pens rdss (rdss)
31 $ 412.30 Team RDSS Rebels (RDSS)
11 $ 409.50 Masters of Futility (IdaBet.com)
1 $ 386.20 Assiniboia Cappers (Assinboia Downs)
15 $ 380.70 Pucks & Ponies
6 $ 379.00 GOLD RUNNERS
7 $ 373.40 Horizon Racing Stable (horizonracingstable.com)
9 $ 366.10 Inquiry
38 $ 354.50 The RoughRiders (HottalkersTwo)
14 $ 354.20 Pace Pals Pete & the Autopickers (iHandicapOnline.com/pacepals.com)
10 $ 333.40 Killer Crossovers
19 $ 315.10 Swing for the Fences
35 $ 288.90 The Inglorious Basterds
13 $ 282.80 On The Short Line - (e-ponies.com)
36 $ 265.20 The Night Cappers
17 $ 257.60 RDSS Team Sartin - (RDSS)
21 $ 246.00 Team Derby Trail (DerbyTrail.com)
40 $ 237.20 The Spot Players
24 $ 236.00 Team JCapper1
43 $ 234.90 Score The Gold
39 $ 212.00 The Ruler
42 $ 211.20 The Tote Busters
4 $ 191.80 FREE AGENT TEAM 1
12 $ 188.40 New and Improved
22 $ 183.40 Team Dynaformer
30 $ 177.60 Team PickMaster
20 $ 177.60 Team Casino
2 $ 168.60 Craven's Ravens
8 $ 163.20 Hottalkers1
Jay Trotter
01-14-2012, 09:34 PM
Congrats to Texas RDSS
on a thrilling win at the wire
Congrats to the whole RDSS team
for your overall performaces
Procefus
01-15-2012, 06:57 PM
Barb & Patrick thanks, this has been much more exciting than I ever imagined.
Definitely a Team effort. Proof that Anything can happen.
Also a big Thanks to Jay & Ted for a quality event with timely results.
Impressive!
Procefus
Ted Craven
01-19-2012, 09:51 PM
Here are the races for ROund 3:
Event 1 Gulfstream #6 -- MSW 9 fur Turf 2:53 PM
Event 2 Aqueduct #7 -- ** CANCELLED DUE TO WEATHER **
Event 3 Aqueduct #9 --- ** CANCELLED DUE TO WEATHER **
Event 4 Fairgrounds #8 -- MSW 1mile 70 yds Dirt 4:25 PM
Event 5 Gulfstream #10 Stakes 3yo 100k 1 1/16 mile Turf 4:45 PM
Event 6 Gulfstream #11 35k mc 1 1/16 Turf 5:13 PM
Event 7 Fairgrounds #10 Stakes 5.5 fur Turf 5:25 PM
Event 8 Fairgrounds #11 G3 Stakes 1 mile70yds Dirt 5:55 PM
Good luck and skill to everyone!
Ted
Procefus
01-21-2012, 11:08 AM
Looks like the AQU races for today's contest have been canceled due to weather.......? What will we do in this situation?
Just use those 6 Races that are available?
Ted Craven
01-21-2012, 11:29 AM
Here: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1220674&postcount=46
6 remaining races.
barb craven
01-21-2012, 07:47 PM
Congratulations to Team Squatheads for being our top team this week. Way to go guys.
And our thanks to Trackcollector (Chris) for stepping and scoring while Jay is away.
Oh, and to Team Sartin who is no longer on the bottom. (I won't say who is).
Ted Craven
02-03-2012, 11:45 AM
Event Track Race Cond Dist Surf Time(EST)
1 GP 8 Clm 30000 7.5f TURF 3:49
2 GP 9 MdSpWt 9.0f DIRT 4:17
3 FG 7 Alw 8.5f TURF 4:25
4 AQU 10 CLM 7500 6.0f DIRT 4:33
5 GP 10 OClm 62500 8.0f TURF 4:45
6 TAM 11 Sam F. Davis 8.5f DIRT 5:10
7 FG 10 Clm 7500 6.0f DIRT 5:55
8 SA 7 OClm 40000 9.0f TURF 6:36
Here: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=122798
Good luck to all the RDSS Teams this week!
Ted
Jay Trotter
02-04-2012, 07:39 PM
will the squatheads catch team nfs
it's anybody's guess
Jay Trotter
02-04-2012, 08:04 PM
and it's squatheads rdss at the wire
congrats
Ted Craven
02-04-2012, 08:08 PM
Un..be..liev..able!!
Congratulations Dogkatcher, Goatchaser and DodgerBecky (aka RDSS Squatheads)!
Also, well done Dangerous Dams (6th) - very nice late improvement (Mum must be feeling better :-)
Ted
pktruckdriver
02-11-2012, 08:52 PM
Team 16 and Team 17
RDSS Team Sartin and RDSS Dangerous old Dams
The top RDSS teams this week , congrats, I apologize for my team this week, I think were 2nd from the bottom, we forgot we are supposed to be on the other end, not the bottom, next week, watch out.
Again Congrats
Patrick
Old Arkie Gal
02-11-2012, 11:50 PM
Way to go Patrick, you will be back. Have to say those races they give us are races that we would all pass given that option. I struggled with today's races fortunately my team members saved me. Don't feel you have to apologize. We all know some time you see them and some time you don't.
Pat (ricia)
Bill V.
02-12-2012, 03:10 AM
Team 16 and Team 17
RDSS Team Sartin and RDSS Dangerous old Dams
The top RDSS teams this week , congrats, I apologize for my team this week, I think were 2nd from the bottom, we forgot we are supposed to be on the other end, not the bottom, next week, watch out.
Again Congrats
Patrick
Thank you Patrick
Ted and Bill L carried the load for Team Sartin this week. I tried to do a few of the races but was not able to finish. Thanks guys
pktruckdriver
02-12-2012, 09:56 AM
Thank you Patrick
Ted and Bill L carried the load for Team Sartin this week. I tried to do a few of the races but was not able to finish. Thanks guys
That's what teamwork is all about, good job guys !!
Patrick
pktruckdriver
02-17-2012, 10:43 AM
OFFICIAL SCHEDULE FOR SATURDAY FEBRUARY 18, 2012
Code:
Event Track Race Cond Dist Surf Time(EST)
1 AQU 8 Clm 7,500 6f Dirt 3:37
2 TAM 8 Turf Dash S. 5f Turf 3:42
3 GP 9 Alw 8f Turf 4:17
4 LRL 9 MdnClm 10,000 8.5f Dirt 4:24
5 HAW 6 Clm 5,000 8.5f Dirt 5:10
6 HAW 9 Clm 5,000 6f Dirt 6:40
7 SA 9 Clm 32,000 8f Turf 7:38
8 GG 8 El Camino Real 9f AWS 7:43
This is a great schedule, and starts late in the afternoon, the only downside for me and a few others are that if you do not have unlimited downloads, which I do not, this card is tough, I have 20 downloads a month, and up until this card I was able to Do these contests on the weekend with no issue's, as Aqueduct for the Pick 4, and normally a race or 2 in PAIHL, yet PAIHL also had maybe 2-3 other tracks, this time 7 tracks , much tougher without good communication with your Team to see who will do what, so this week I hope I will have that great communication this week. Otherwise downloading all races to cap will most likely put me over my 20 downloads a month, and I am only doing contest's currently, which for me is great practice, and last year was great with my fellow team members we would get togehter on Skype and discuss our capping , who would take what races, and often switched it up frequently to keep things intersting, itwas meant to be competetive, but fun also, and it is , really great how well they do with the scoring and everything associated with these contests.
I wish you all well this week
patrick
Ted Craven
02-17-2012, 11:14 AM
... the only downside for me and a few others are that if you do not have unlimited downloads, which I do not, this card is tough, I have 20 downloads a month, and up until this card I was able to Do these contests on the weekend with no issue's ...
Patrick, and any other PAIHL Contest team members who do not have Unlimited RDSS downloads -
Please contact me by email regarding this (ted@sartinmethodology.com)
Ted
Jay Trotter
02-17-2012, 01:09 PM
FYI.........it is our intent to try and limit the number of tracks to about 3 if possible. I sent a reminder to our "NEW" schedule master to keep this in mind when making future contests as we are aware not everyone uses the Free Brisnet PP's.
Trotter
pktruckdriver
02-25-2012, 07:53 PM
Congrats to the "Squatheads", this weeks winning RDSS team and for coming in 3rd this week, I have taken our team down to the cellar again, this rollercoaster ride of ours is getting me a bit queasy, Team texas , alos finished in 7th this week.
Patrick
barb craven
03-11-2012, 12:03 PM
Congratulations to Team Sartin for the tremendous leap into third place this week. Way to go.
Unfortunately we hit a bump and landed almost at the bottom this week. Oh well, more to come. I think all six of our teams are giving the rest of them a run for their money though.
Bill V.
03-18-2012, 05:59 AM
Concrats to all the RDSS teams this week. I see lots of us up near the top
of the standings, with the RDSS REBELS topping the list.
Team Sartin did good. I have to give a big shout out to Bill Lyster who
had the $64.00 winner and $520 exacta in his top 3 at GP. Ted and I had it as alternate bets but I failed to include it in our final picks.
Hope we all improve more as the weeks go on
GS
Bill
barb craven
03-18-2012, 09:26 AM
I agree Bill. Congratulations all round to our teams,especially to the Rebels.
We changed our strategy this week and it payed off considerably. Hopefully we can continue. It was a good birthday present for Pat.Old Arky Gal.
Bill V.
03-25-2012, 03:36 AM
It was another strong showing for the RDSS teams this week
With The Dangerous Old Dams and Squatheads way up top
getting 5th and 6th place.
Or Team Sartin # 17 did ok Ted and Bill L. had some nice winners for us
Way to go teams
Bill
barb craven
03-26-2012, 11:18 AM
Yes Bill we did pretty good for a change. We've changed our strategy and it seems to be paying off. I hope I don't speak too soon.
You guys are ahead of us in the overall standings though. I think all our teams are doing extremely well. I'm glad the RDSS is standing out so all can see.
Ted Craven
03-26-2012, 12:52 PM
It was another strong showing for the RDSS teams this week
With The Dangerous Old Dams and Squatheads way up top
getting 5th and 6th place.
Or Team Sartin # 17 did ok Ted and Bill L. had some nice winners for us
Way to go teams
Bill
Bill V is modest - in his own picks for our Team this week, he had the Spiral Stakes at TP $12.40 Winner and $245 Exacta, while as a Team consensus we only managed to catch the $21.80 Place and $10.80 show prices on the Place horse. Such is the difficulty in meshing 3 distinct handicapping styles.
As a Team, we never completely blow, but we never seem catch a big one to finish on top of the heap one week.
As usual, congratulations to the Squatheads for their Occupy PAIHL movement, and a salute to the Dams for an excellent showing this week.
My dream remains for an all RDSS Teams PAIHL Finale :eek:
Ted
pktruckdriver
04-14-2012, 09:21 PM
congrats to the top team , getting a bye
18 $6,885.65 444.5 Squatheads (RDSS)
34 $5,278.30 355 TEXAS RDSS (RDSS)
16 $5,629.10 340 RDSS Dangerous Old Dams (RDSS)
17 $4,908.50 340 RDSS Team Sartin - (RDSS)
You are all in the playoff's, I ,of course ,did not make it this year, might be my lack of learning ability, or luck, but whatever it is, just know this...
I WISH ALL REMAINING RDSS TEAMS THE VERY BEST
PATRICK
Ted Craven
04-15-2012, 12:51 PM
Patrick,
Thank you very much for your wishes, and my congratulations to the other RDSS teams who have made it this far, especially to the Squatheads. Patrick, you and Ray gave it a good go as the Rebels, as did the Pens crew, but the breaks were just not your way this year.
This team play is a difficult, even specialty form of play, and certainly not the only test of the individuals' abilities. In my team's case, my other 2 teammates have done overall somewhat better than I have, individually, though some weeks one of us fares better than the others. Also, some of the chosen races are not races each of us would choose to bet in, and choice of betting race and pool (or choice not to bet) is probably half of the decision making.
I am reminded that all you need one week is ONE good hit.
Good luck (and good skill responding to the luck opportunities) next weekend to the 4 RDSS teams continuing!
Ted
Rverge
04-16-2012, 06:45 PM
GOOD LUCK! to all the RDSS teams who made the playoffs! GO GET'EM!
barb craven
04-16-2012, 09:18 PM
First Patrick I apologize for not responding to your wishes, but for some reason I didn't get to this page until tonight. Thank you for that. You are always a gentleman and the first with good wishes.
Ted's right, too bad about the Rebels and Pens not making the playoffs. You never know from one week to another what's going to happen with this contest. You guys gave it a good try though, Good work. There's always next year.
Congratulations to the rest of the RDSS teams especially the Squatheads, who are going to be the team to beat.
Good luck and good skill to all of us remaining.
Barb, Mary and Pat (Dangerous Old Dams)
Bill Lyster
04-17-2012, 01:15 AM
Well Barb, I was really relieved to see that there was no blood spilled in the Craven family over this contest. I am sure that we both could have done better, but the vagaries of a 3 person team are hard to know.
I guess if we had reliable biorythms we could plan who would be hot or not, but that IMHO was a total crap shoot. You could go 8 for 8 or 0 fer 8, zig when you should have zagged, and vice versa.
Anyway, good luck in the playoffs. I'd rather be lucky than good any given Saturday, at least in this contest.
Bill
Congrats to all the teams who qualified for the playoffs and best of luck for the upcoming weeks.
Chris
Ted Craven
04-23-2012, 10:59 AM
Well, the PAIHL team contest grinds on to the semi-finals next week, but without 2 more of the RDSS teams - Bil V, Bill L and me as Team Sartin and Barb, Pat and Mary as the Dangerous Old Dams. The Dams had an excuse - they only missed the cut by $1.10 (tough beat, that!) but we were $136 short.
Congratulations to the Dams!
The team play was tough, for me. I am reminded of the old joke headline: 'statistician drowns in average of 18 inches of water ...' Each of the Bills and I had individual times of brilliance, and plenty of consistency, but our consensus strategy just did not work out for us often enough. It was fun convening with these 2 fine gentlemen each week, and sometimes going over our picks in some detail, but I am reminded of how the handicapping/wagering process is supposed to be a 'lonely' activity.
Or, perhaps if our team had succeeded I'd now be extolling the virtues of '3 heads are better than one' etc. I doubt it, but it was fun enough while it lasted. Thank you very much Bill and Bill for your company and for what you taught me during our time together!
However, RDSS Team Texas made it to the next round in fine fashion - well done guys! And the Squatheads squatting ever on top of the heap - we wish you both well over the next 2 weeks. A shout-out also to atlasaxis' team On the Short Line, who also advanced to the semi-finals. Am I missing any other Pace and Cap regulars?
Again, well done all retiring and continuing players!
Ted
Jay Trotter
04-23-2012, 01:11 PM
I would like to extend my hearty congratulations to those RDSS teams still alive in the P.A.I.H.L. and condolences to those who are no longer in the playoff race. All of the RDSS teams gave it their best each week and really should be proud of their overall representation in the leage. Well done one and all.
As well, I would like to single out the Dangerous Old Dams for the tenacious efforts. Unfortunately, they were on the wrong end of that $1.10. Tough beat if ever there was one. Each of you can carry your heads high indeed!
Trotter
barb craven
04-23-2012, 10:29 PM
Thanks for those kind words Jay. It was a fun time. I would like to thank you once again for all the hard work you are putting into the contest. I don't know about you, but I like turnips.
Our heartiest congratulations to all the teams that are continuing on. We wish them good luck and good skill.
Dangerous Old Dams (Barb, Pat and Mary)
dogkatcher
04-24-2012, 04:04 AM
Dear Barb, I think they should have the Inquiry sign put up. Surely you were forced to take up somewhere along the way. What a photo finish that was, and so sorry it didn't go the right way for the Dangerous ones.
Here is a photo of goatchaser expressing what we hope the squatheads will be doing next week. By more then a head, please, LOL.
dogkatcher
04-29-2012, 12:51 AM
Congratulations to RDSS Team Texas, for making the finals next week,
great job, go all the way. Best of Luck.
barb craven
04-29-2012, 09:36 AM
Love the picture dogcatcher. I'm sorry it didn't get to happen for you guys, but it you gave a tremendous chase. and thanks for your remark about us. It really felt funny not doing the races on Friday and Saturday. but there's always next year.
barb craven
04-29-2012, 09:42 AM
A TREMENDOUS CONGRATS TO RDSS TEAM TEXAS FOR MAKING THE FINALS.
I didn't stay up to see the end. What a long wait for you guys. I looked to see first thing this morning.
Next weekend is going to be really big!
Good luck (and from the look at some of those races, that's what is needed more than skill)from all of us Dangerous Old Dams.
Barb, Mary and Pat
atlasaxis
04-29-2012, 10:16 AM
Congrats to RDSS Team Texas for making the finals next week! Time to go to the stick and bring it home! Best of Luck!!!
Tom
Ted Craven
04-29-2012, 10:16 AM
Way to go, Team Texas (Dave, Craig, Doug) - all your hard work and persistence is paying off. Go get'em next week: those remaining teams are TOUGH!
Squatheads - you had a great year this year, no accident you have been on top for so long. Yesterday the luck was just not with you, despite all the skill you bring to the game.
I am very proud of ALL the teams who represented RDSS and the Sartin Methodology in the Team competition!
yours,
Ted
dogkatcher
04-29-2012, 07:01 PM
Late report: dogkatcher has been vanned off
goatchaser is out to pasture
dodgerbecky can be found wandering about Dodger Stadium
in a daze.
Thanks for all the support for the "squatheads", greatly appreciated. Go Texas RDSS !
Thanks to everyone for their support. Congratulations to the Squatheads for
their regular season victory. Great job guys. Texas RDSS is honored to be in the finals.
We do not take our responsibility lightly. We are well aware of the rich tradition of RDSS
and very much feel the presence Doc and Hat every week. I think Hat might have rapped
me on the head for several of my picks last week. I think at one point I could have sworn
I heard Doc refer to me as dummy. I can promise you I will be channeling there wisdom
this weekend.
I want to thank Ted for the new release RDSS. In my mind is is not only a thing of beauty
but the next level in handicapping excellence. Ted is brilliant and a worthy successor for Doc.
The improvements Ted has made would make Doc very proud. I want to give credit also to
RichieP as I spent time last week reviewing the match up and watching his video and tapes.
I'm just saying we are so lucky to have this wealth of knowledge at our finger tips.
Texas RDSS is humbled to carry our RDSS flag into the finals for all RDSS members past and
present. Our goal is to make all of you proud.
I glad to see such a good showing from P&C (RDSS). Nice work Squatheads and keep pluggin' away Texas.
If we all can't be on top of one contest, let's have each one of us win all the contests (or the remaining ones).
Great job and good luck.
Chris
Ted Craven
05-05-2012, 10:11 AM
RDSS Team Texas is in mid-pack after the first day of the 2 day Team Contest Finale, not over-extending on the lead, not too far out of it. We all know one good hit is often all it takes in this contest, and while waiting for the luck, staying within striking range is the place to be.
So good luck guys today - you already have the skill!
DAY 1 RESULTS
TEAM TOTAL TEAM NAME
11 $ 401.10 Masters of Futility (IdaBet.com)
33 $ 364.30 Team Zenyatta
37 $ 281.80 The Parlay Kings (PaceAdvantage.com)
34 $ 271.30 TEXAS RDSS (RDSS)
41 $ 256.60 The Sunshine Pros
22 $ 170.30 Team Dynaformer
27 $ 115.70 Team Overlay (www.overlaypublications.com (http://www.overlaypublications.com/))
Jay Trotter
05-05-2012, 10:26 AM
Best of luck to TEXASS RDSS and each of the 7 Finalists.
It's been a great contest and the RDSS teams made the 2nd edition of the P.A.I.H.L. even more exciting. One big hit could prove the difference for any of the teams.
Special Thanks to Ted for his support of the League and P.A.C.S.!
Trotter
atlasaxis
05-05-2012, 10:53 AM
I'll echo Ted's words as he said it best:
Good luck guys today - you already have the skill!
Best regards,
Tom
Ted Craven
05-05-2012, 11:10 AM
Best of luck to TEXASS RDSS and each of the 7 Finalists.
It's been a great contest and the RDSS teams made the 2nd edition of the P.A.I.H.L. even more exciting. One big hit could prove the difference for any of the teams.
Special Thanks to Ted for his support of the League and P.A.C.S.!
Trotter
Well, I would be remiss in not also wishing Jay Trotter and the Parlay Kings also good luck in today's Finals! Jay, you have gone above the call in managing this contest, while also maintaining the highest competitive degree possible. Thank you for everything you have done - I expect all good things to come to you.
And very best wishes in your enquiries into the Sartin Methodology!
Ted
Dap Daddi
05-05-2012, 11:25 AM
Hello Ted and others here at Pacve and Cap. It has been a long time since I have posted here. I would not mind teaming up with Chris Descalos and someone else here. Chris is one of the best handicappers I have known. Regards to all.
Dap Daddi
Ted Craven
05-05-2012, 11:44 AM
Hey Dap! Good to see you again (and still love your avatar!)
From all the time I have ever spent with Chris, I'm with you 100%. Hold that thought for another 9 months and perhaps you can guys can launch a Team Minnesota in the 2013 edition of this contest next year!
Or, stay tuned here for a new Contest coming up right here on Pace and Cap in the next few weeks: monthly cash prizes and a chance to learn and share your wisdom with others ;)
Good luck today in the Derby and elsewhere!
Ted
Ted Craven
05-05-2012, 11:42 PM
A hearty congratulations to Jay Trotter and his Parlay Kings team for winning the PAIHL team competition! You clearly proved your superiority this season, despite the occasional intrusion of racing luck, and a close study of your picks will be revealing, I'm sure.
A hearty 'well done' to all the teams, and a special congratulations to Team Texas for your dauntless work week after week, representing RDSS and the Sartin Methodology. We are all very proud of you!
TEAM DAY 1 DAY 2 TOTAL TEAM NAME
37 $ 281.80 $ 668.90 $ 950.70 The Parlay Kings (PaceAdvantage.com)
11 $ 401.10 $ 493.30 $ 894.40 Masters of Futility (IdaBet.com)
33 $ 364.30 $ 309.60 $ 673.90 Team Zenyatta
27 $ 115.70 $ 475.90 $ 591.60 Team Overlay (www.overlaypublications.com)
22 $ 170.30 $ 403.80 $ 574.10 Team Dynaformer
34 $ 271.30 $ 249.40 $ 520.70 TEXAS RDSS (RDSS)
41 $ 256.60 $ 234.40 $ 491.00 The Sunshine Pros
Ted
barb craven
05-06-2012, 07:37 AM
We will add our own hearty congratulations to Jay and his Parlay Kings. Great job. And to our own Texas RDSS, well done to get into the finals. There's always next year. Dangerous Old Dams (Barb, Pat, Mary).
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