2/4/12 request for old wagering software / programming language

[Dorianmode]

Good news. I found my old Sharp 5500III, and 1350 hand-held computers. AND I found the interface/tape recorder available on eBay. Now I just need a copy of the old cassette tapes that the wagering tools were put on, back in the late 80's, and I can either do a "list" to get at the programming language, or just poke around in the programming and pull out the programming lines. They were written in the (ancient) BASIC programming language. Does anyone have, or know anyone who might have, a set of those old tapes ? I would be willing to pay for them.


When I get the programs transfered back into the hand-helds, I can reconstruct the tools, put them into Google/Excel spread sheet, and post them, so folks can open them as operational programs and use them.


There were a number of useful tools...
..an algorhythm for determining approximate odds in the place pool,
..tools for overlays on the place and show pools,
..an algorhythm for calculating the EXACT odds in the win pool. ((you'd be suprised how much different they actually are, relatively,(in some cases), than the posted odds))
..a dutching calculator for 2 and 3 horses
..lots of other things I don't recall
.. many of Doc early programs, (including Q-scan for quarter horses) were available for the 1350

(all were dependant on an initial entry of the track you are playing's "take out", so they were very accurate)


When I construct the spread sheet, I can aso add entry cells to calculate some of the useful formulas Huey Mahl talked about in Follou UP's 2 and 3, (for use in determining your minimum break even #'s, etc,)


I would be very grateful for any help.

Thanks. :)

[gfnut]

Hi Dori

Here is a list of programs I have for the Sharp 1350

Phase III
Pargenerator
Ultra Scan
Phase I
Combo Scan
Synergism II
Contender Scan

Tom

[Dorianmode]

I just found a cassette tape with the wagering tools. I entered it into the Sharp 5500III, and they WORK ! ... so I can "list" them, print it, and get at the programming.

They include :

a. tool for entering track takeout, breakage, -->> exact odds
b. probable pays in show pool
c. various betting payoff calculators
d. Kelly Criterion calculator
e. a simple Quarter horse feet/sec calculator
f. a calculator for "place dutching" two horses in the place pool,
g. a calculator for probable pay outs in the place pool
h. a calculator for overlays in the exacta pools
i. a quick APV/Class calculator
j. a (very) old quick calculator for % E and % L (with input of your own adjustment possible).
k. some simple "bank" and money management tools, including dutching calculators for 2 and 3 horses
l. a calcuator for overlays, (relative to win pool odds) in the place and show pools, (for (THAT) one horse)
m. the "Ziemba" formulas, (from their book)
n. a quick E/L calculator, for % E difference from a known par, model, or horse

Anyway, I'll work on putting them into an Excel Spread Sheet, and Google Spread Sheet, and posting it. Some may find one or more useful.

:cool:

[SUPERTECH]

Wow, what a nice find!!

Please, check your private message folder

[lsosa54]

Dorianmode: Looks like you got pretty busy as I don't think I've seen you post for a couple of months? Was wondering if you got a chance to take a look at the old programs you received from some folks on your Commodore and whether there's a shot at getting the code and maybe getting it into Excel.

Hope you're well.

Thanks.

Lou

[Dorianmode]

Dorianmode: Looks like you got pretty busy as I don't think I've seen you post for a couple of months? Was wondering if you got a chance to take a look at the old programs you received from some folks on your Commodore and whether there's a shot at getting the code and maybe getting it into Excel.

Hope you're well.

Thanks.

Lou

Am still here. My computer crashed, and I had to get a new one. Am still getting everything installed, and up and running. Which of the old programs are you most interested in ? All the ones I looked at will list. Are there particular formulas, or readouts that you are looking for ?
Sorry for the delay. I also had to temporarily return to work, as one one my former partners became very ill. He's on the mend...but NOW, I like working again ... so...what's an old guy to do ? :p

[lsosa54]

I hear you on the work although I've had too much for the last year and a half!
Bummer about the computer crash - those are no fun. I just picked up an i3 11.6 laptop that I'm going to use as my travel laptop and I'm not looking forward to cleaning out the bloat and installing all my stuff.

I would have some interest in the "scans" - Ultra Scan, Combo Scan, and Contender Scan.

[deepcloser]

Dorianmode,
Could you please check your private messages. Thanks, Dennis

[deepcloser]

Dorianmode, About Contender Scan, were you successful in transferring the data to Excel or Google Spreadsheets?

GFNut, Would you be willing to share Contender Scan? I can't think of anything I could exchange for it. Is there anything your looking for in exchange?

Thanks,
Dennis

[lsosa54]

Dorianmode, About Contender Scan, were you successful in transferring the data to Excel or Google Spreadsheets?

GFNut, Would you be willing to share Contender Scan? I can't think of anything I could exchange for it. Is there anything your looking for in exchange?

Thanks,
Dennis

Deepcloser: I guess you unfortunately got nowhere?

[deepcloser]

Dorianmode and GFNut,
If you have access to contender scan or Synergism II, lsosa54 and I would appreciate you sharing. Please let us know if you are looking for anything in exchange. Thanks

[Twalker]

Hi Dorianmode,

Im Twalker and you was looking for code for money management.
pc-3,1350,1360,coco c-64?Email at Twalker495@hotmail.com.

[Twalker]

Hi Ted,

Im on a roll.Did you get my email today?

[Ted Craven]

Hi Ted,

Im on a roll.Did you get my email today?

Tony, yes, got it and responded! Thanks!

Ted

[Twalker]

Hi Im Twalker,

Emailed Ted about Money Management program code which i shared
with.Its from the pc-3,1350 hand-helds.
Total bank
win pool
place pool
show pool
exacta overlay finder
place/show overlay finder
Kelly criterion

I also have some scans for pc-3,c-64,1350-60.

Ultra scan,Contender scan,combo scan i think.

Willing to share and if you have something to trade thats great
if not dont worry.Like to add to my libuary of sartin/badshaw.Coming soon
Seminiar manuals done inpdf format(Thanks to Dick Werpy and Mike Salony
)and audio in time.
Interested in pc-3,1350-60,C-64,coco color(Radio Shack) programs
of SARTIN Methodology

And special thanks to Barbara Craven for help with seminiar tapes
transfered to digial.Coming soon.

Leave me a note in my private message folder.

Thanks Twalker

[gfnut]

This is a list a list of programs & tapes I have for the C-64 & Sharp 1350. I do not mind sharing if you just let me know, I can send it to you. If it is ok with Ted and the group.

C-64

Q-Scan
Synergism II
Synergism
Ultra Scan
Engen
Four-in-one

Sharp 1350

Phase III
Ultra Scan
Synergism II
Combo Scan
Phase I

[lsosa54]

The cool thing was that Dorianmode was listing the old Commodore programs out so maybe we could convert to some type of Excel format. I don't see many Sharp 1350's out there and in any case they are manual input I would think. I'm not investing $1500 in a new quad core C64 or even what the regular new one costs, with the Atom processor and NVidia card - costs more than a netbook.

I guess it's time to move on.

[Twalker]

Thanks gfnut,

Check your private email.I hope you all took my offer as intended so if anyone
wanted to tansfer to a excel sheet i would try and make that program code
avaiavble to who needed it.

Thanks Twalker

[deepcloser]

Thanks for doing the work of transferring the seminar manuals to pdf and converting the audio to files! It's a lot of work.

[Twalker]

Dear deepcloser,

Im Tony Walker(Twalker) I supplied the Seminiar manuals you thanked
me for.I can only take some thanks for only making the manuals so all
can enjoy but the real thanks go to (Mike Salony),and(Dick Werpy) for
all their work putting them to pdf format.

Twalker