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Bill V.
08-03-2012, 12:47 AM
We had a little trouble getting the score sheet up with the new scoring method

Welcome to the contest new comers DianeM, and MrBill
Mr Bill gets right off to a great start with a $100 win bet on the $23.00
winner at DMR race 3

Noddub62 gets off red hot with 2 winners at Pen race 5 and 6

Gfnut bets with wild abandon and already completes a 20 race cycle
But can anybody really win at this pace ?

good skill to everybody

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gfnut
08-03-2012, 04:05 PM
I only have 2 more days of free download. So I am trying diff. tracks.

Bill V.
08-03-2012, 05:52 PM
I only have 2 more days of free download. So I am trying diff. tracks.

Thanks for the explanation,:) I was really starting to worry about you.
I thought you freaked out like the guy in the old Twight Zone, who gets
addicted to the slot machines in Vegas

I hope the Learn To Win contest will help you fund your true bankroll enough that
someday you can invest in the unlimited download plan

GS
Bill

gfnut
08-03-2012, 06:04 PM
Thanks Bill

I think I am learning something by doing alot of races before they are run.

Tom

Bill V.
08-04-2012, 02:20 AM
The Score sheet is starting to fill up
We had a few glitches yesterday, with posting also Please
People make sure you get you screen shots in

A few nice hits and lots of near misses

Those posting winners were
DianeM
RMath
TigerRose
and
Gfnut who had many winners
and is doing much better in his second cycle

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barb craven
08-05-2012, 06:52 AM
Hi Bill. I think you missed one of mine. On Aug 3 I did the 4,6,7 races at Saratoga and hit the 6th for $17.90. I looked. I had it in in plenty of time and posted the results the next morning. . That would put me at 6 races and 2 hits by the end of Aug. 3.

Bill V.
08-05-2012, 10:08 AM
Hi Barb
I saw you had the winner in race 6 Yet, I had to move ahead and did not add it to the daily update sheet.
You had not yet posted your screen shot at the time I posted the screen
shot of the daily scoresheet
As I posted yesterday, In cases like you and TigerRose presented . I will need to put races without screen shots on hold and add them to the next days update


This month things are a little more busy than before, with some new members joining and Ted being away at the very end of July. We had issues with the spreadsheet and the new rules format . plus we have been very busy in the Old Sartin Programs Forum .

With no rules saying he could not do so
gfnut did nearly 40 races in 2 days, which caused me to need to devote way much more of my time just to get everything correctly totaled
I found I had to get the update posted when I had the chance I love keeping score and its a job I take very serious The time I devote to keeping track of the scores is limited. So as I posted, I wanted to get those folks who have completed there picks and screen captures scores up as soon as possible in the AM
I strive to get each days summary up as early as I can in the am So if there are problems I can correct them before the new days races start coming in
which for me means about 9:30 am here on the west coast.

When I post the Saturday summary today You will see that your now up to date

GS
Bill

barb craven
08-05-2012, 10:53 AM
No worries Bill, I just wanted to have that one in there. You're are doing a Trojan job. I don't know how you keep up with it all and do such a fantastic job on your own races as well. BTW congratulations on your July score. Great job. Are you going to be able to get to Saratoga this year? It would be great to see you again and do some races together.

Bill V.
08-05-2012, 11:45 AM
Saturday results witn Barb and TigerRose updated Friday scores

Saturdays winners
Aldens Dad SUF Race 1
Noddub62 DMR Race 2
TigerRose SAR Race 7.8. 9

We are off and running
Mr Bill and DianeM get a good break and lead into the first turn
and its a real big bunch of early pressers


As I posted It was a very hectic few days
I am posting the score sheet today
Please review your picks as I really had a hard time with the
load these first few days

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Bill V.
08-06-2012, 01:53 PM
Here is the Sunday update

In regards to Patricks AP race 3
I have consulted with Ted
I have decided to stand by my ruling
and the race will be scored as a miss

I have attached a copy of the scoresheet
The summary sheet will show Patrick with 7 wins
Patrick'ss own cycle page will show the race as a 8th win. This is for
his own records It should be viewed as a win by him
I fully believe he just made an error
However I must stand firm and until an officai policy change is made
I will continue to rule improper postings as a miss.
No rules have been changed, All rulle changes have been posted
before each months contest
any rule updates will be posted by Ted, and those rule changes will be
a vote between Ted and I, We welcome all opinions on how to improve the contest
so please If you have an idea let us know.

Here is the update.Please everybody,we had another very busy day
with well over 30 races selected.Please review your scores and let me know if I missed something
Thanks
Bill

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Bill V.
08-07-2012, 05:35 AM
A very good day on Monday

BuffaloXP hits racess 9 and 10 at MNR (late Sunday) $7.00 and $22.40
Noddub62 hits races 2 and 5 at PEN, $22.60 and $10.20
Aldens Dad hits 2 $100 win bets at DEL Races 5 and 8
TigerRose Hits race 8 at Saratoga with a $80 place bet
and
Midland gets off to a good start with a $100 win bet at MNR $4.40

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Tiger Rose
08-07-2012, 06:28 PM
isn't a scratch a no play ? ?

$2,042.00 6/10 0.600
Saratoga 9 #7 Clip The Coupons $100 Place scratched
Del Mar 2 #4 Fire With Fire $100 Place ran 4th -$100
6/11
Saratoga 8 #1 Mott entry $20 Win $80 Place $3.80= $152
Saratoga 9 #6 Crimson China $20 Win $80 Place out -$100
7/13

Bill V.
08-07-2012, 06:52 PM
Yes Tiger you are correct Thank you for checking
I missed the 7 being scratched
Your score has been updated
Bankroll = $1894
Hit rate = .538
Bonus = $72.85
Contest Score = $1966.85
I will post the spreadsheet again ifor Tuedays' update
There is a very good chance I may have missed other bets on Sunday

Bill

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Bill V.
08-08-2012, 09:56 AM
Budman takes the lead

RMath is Tuesdays big winner

Race 6 at PRX $40 w/p on # 12 = $8.20 = $314

here is todays score sheet
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Bill V.
08-08-2012, 04:25 PM
Ted and I have tweeked the scoring method just slightly
Starting tonight when I do the days recap the bonus hit rate
calculation will not effect anybodys score until that person
has posted at lest 7 races

This scoring nuance – it doesn’t affect anyone’s score, just skips over goofy Hit Rate fluctuations based on small numbers of plays, for the first 7 races.

GS
Bill

Bill V.
08-09-2012, 06:30 AM
Rmath hits a 25/1 winner at Penn race 8 and rockets to the lead

Lots of winners on a very busy Weds.
Almost every body had at least 1 winner in there selections

We welcome 3 new contestents
Partsnut
Jimbob1002
JohnFarraro


It was a very busy day with 37 posted picks
please check your scores

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Bill V.
08-10-2012, 06:26 AM
Budman reclaims the lead by a few dollars over Rmath

next and in striking position are
TigerRose
MrBill
Buffaloxp
Midland333

Thursdays winners are
DianeM DMR Race 4
Midland333 PRM race 9

Lots of near misses yesterday
Hope you all turn that around today

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Bill V.
08-11-2012, 09:33 AM
TigerRose inches up closer to Noddub62 and RMath
we have a great battle this month

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Boe777
08-11-2012, 10:44 AM
Hi Bill,
Looks like you missed 1 of my bets yesterday, I had 2 and they were both winners. I don't blame you a bit as I know how much work is involved.

Alex

Bill V.
08-11-2012, 11:03 AM
Hi Alex

Yes I see now that MNR race came in late last night
Nice work on a $50 bet on a $7.00 place price in a race with a 1/9 shot winning
I have fixed your score and it will show up on tonights update

Bill

Bill V.
08-12-2012, 01:21 PM
Rmath opens up a lead with a big win at CRC

Nice wins and big movers ___

DianeM makes a big move and takes over 2nd place with a $17.80 winner at DMR
Tiger rose hits 12 /20 and ends his first cycle
John Farraro Moves up nicely with 2 wins at DMR
Boe777 Hits MNR late Friday
Noddub62 hits race 7 at CT
Bill V. hits race 4 at MTH
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Todays Tidbit

"The Horse Runs The Race"
more to come

Tiger Rose
08-12-2012, 03:32 PM
started yesterday with $2,169 bet $300 got a return of $168
so only lost $132 should be $2,037
not $1,937 correct ?

Bill V.
08-12-2012, 04:33 PM
Here is what I have

One of your missed races did not subtract the $100 bet
I didn't notice this till you finished the cycle yesterday, It had you as betting
$1900 in 20 races I apologize
Here are your 12 / 20 winners If you can see a issue let me know

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Tiger Rose
08-12-2012, 06:23 PM
so is post 18 wrong because thats is what i was going by ?
tiger rose $2,169 0.648 $318.97 $2,487.97 11/17

i didn't keep my scores was going by your scorecard
just kept track of hits

Tiger Rose
08-12-2012, 07:19 PM
will go thru my thread and add em up

final board is correct it was post 18 off $100 bucks should have been $2,069

I know how tough it is to score these contests bill
don't mean to be a pain
we are so close $100 will make a diff

George

Bill V.
08-13-2012, 09:36 AM
Rmath's lead opens a bit as we are in the second fraction
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Sunday was a tough day for the selectors here
Those who bet Saratoga and Delmar races went 0 for 15 :eek:

Boe Hits AP race 3 $12.80
Even with wild prices coming in all over on Sunday
DianeM wins the Hero gift card with her $17.80 winner on Saturday

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Bill V.
08-14-2012, 05:14 AM
Love Mondays

Smaller Tracks = more wins

Aldens Dad - Race 2 Delaware
RMath - Race 10 Parx
John Farrraro - Race 2 and 5 Parx
Midland333 - Race 10 MNR
Bill V. Race 9 Parx

score sheet spreadsheet
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Totals Tidbit
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Bill V.
08-15-2012, 09:28 AM
As the gang rolls into Saratoga for the RDSS/Paceandcap get together
The action should heat up

Del Mar has a big pick 5 and pick 6 carry over

Tuesday was a light day
Rmath hit at Parx race 4
Bill V race 10

AS we approach the 1/2 point

Rmath leads
and then its a real battle for position
wilth the pressers and sustained runners

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Bill V.
08-16-2012, 05:37 AM
Todays winners


Buffaloxp Del Mar race 3
DianeM Del Mar Race 7
Bill V. Presque Race 3
Midlan333 Wo Race 7

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Bill V.
08-17-2012, 10:46 AM
At the half way point of the month
The contest is very close

Good skill in the second half

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Bill V.
08-18-2012, 07:01 AM
We have a new leader :1:
Midland333 Hits race 10 at Woodbine and takes over the lead
TigerRose hits 2 races at Saratoga
Del Mar continues to be trouble for the contest selectors

Here is the score sheet - please check your scores

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Bill V.
08-19-2012, 03:32 AM
We have a new leader :1:
Noddub62 closes his 20 race cycle with :3:
winners at DMR including a $50 win bet on the $35.80 winner in race 10
Budmad also hit races 8 and 5

See a Winners Report below ****

Welcome Holding Pattern
Those also posting winners Saturday
TigerRose AP and SAR
John Farraro 3 winners at Del. races 3 6 and 9
Buffalo xp AP race 2 a $15.00 winner
gfnut DMR Man just will not give up those Chantel posters must have him
hypnotized

Here is the score sheet
Once again we had lots of races yesterday, please check your scores
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A Winners Profile Noddub62

Here is Budmans 20 race cycle

Budman won the June contest , was 3nd in the July contest and has a good lead in August
He uses a consistant professional approach
He almost always bets 2 horse to WIN, splitting his bets 60/40.
He works a few different tracks.
He bets off the ML and very rarely has money on a low odds horse.
He never spreads his work out too much, He does just a few races
at a time. He has Learned To Win and I'm glad he uses the contest
as a serious approach to winning

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Bill V.
08-20-2012, 11:32 AM
Once again we had lots of action with very poor results

Hats off to Rmath who posted just 3 race - and won 2 of them
Race 8 at Parx
Race 9 at Calder a beautiful $40 bet on a $15.40 winner

RMath is the subject of today's Winner Report ***


First todays update

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If you want to win take a moment and puruse some of the players cycles
Notice lots of very poor cycles coming in

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I am not going to naming names but take a look at some of these poor cycles
and see if you notice a pattern, there are two that will jump off the page at you.
Just click on any name in the players tab who is showing a very low win %
and you should see a very negative trend

Then do the same for the top 5 position players and see if you see any
difference in what it takes to win

Bill V.
08-21-2012, 09:44 AM
Midland333 takes the lead :1:
goes 1-1 with a $10.60 winner on a $60 bet at Parx race 5

other posting winners
Buffaloxp (2) Saratoga 1 and 6
TigerRose (3) Saratoga 2, 6, 9
Aldensdad Suf 4
Jimbob Saratoga 6

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Bill V.
08-22-2012, 10:24 AM
Rmath hits race 4 at Hoosier $10.60

We have a great battle for the top spot
Midland, Rmath, and noddub62 are seperated by just $42.00

Good Skill Today

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Bill V.
08-23-2012, 09:54 AM
What a strange day

We had 2 selectors cancel bets that turned out to be wins
We had many who hid the low price favorite but missed
We had many win only bets that placed
We had some place only bets that showed
We had two races were the selector won but did not profit over $100

TigerRose and Noddub62 had the bigest wins of the day at $ 9.80 and $6.80

Today can and will only be better

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Bill V.
08-24-2012, 10:55 AM
Important news about the Sept contest
http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8616

Now for today's updat
Thursday was a good day, thats more like it .

Buffaloxp goes to Remington Park and goes 2/2
Race 4 $7.40
Race 5 $14.80

Noddub62 catches another gem at Del Mar Race 7 $31.80

Into the last week of the August contest and we have a great race going on

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Bill V.
08-25-2012, 12:50 PM
Nodubb62 still leads the way Will his second 20 races top the $2700 he earned in his first cycle ?
Budman hit 2 more races yesterday CT race 2 and CT race 3

Friday at Saratoga race 7 saw two nice $19.60 winners
Jimbob and Gfnut score big on that race

Gfnut also hit race 1 at DMR
Bill V hit race 8 at MTH

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Bill V.
08-26-2012, 12:10 PM
Happy results on Saturday

Midland hits race 6 at Woodbine and takes over the lead
BarbC hits a $16+ win/place bet at Finger Lakes and jumps way up in the
standings

Here are some facts folks with one or more wins yesterday
Buffaloxp bet 2 races won 1 =Profit for the day -$63
Barb C bet 1 race Won the race = Profit for the day $464
DianeM bet 1 race Won the race = Profit for the day $100
Budman bet 2 races Won 1 = Profit for the day - $77
BillV bet 1 race Won 1 race = Profit for the day $57.50
Midland Bet 1 race Won the race Profit for the day $19.00

Two people did not win
1 Bet 3 races -$300
1 Bet 1 Race - $100

Here is the updated score sheet
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Bill V.
08-27-2012, 10:22 AM
Noddub62 leads by just about $10 over Midland
Barb C and Rmath are just back from them and are
just $20 apart
TigerRose rounds out the top 5

Just a few days left. Who will break clear ? Will a sustained
runner catch them all at the wire ?

Sundays report
Winner profit and loss **
Barb C Bet $200 Days profit + $64
TigerRose Bet $500 Days profit -$70
Midland Bet $300 Days profit + $108
BillV Bet $100 Days profit + $98

** - posting 1 or more sucessful bet

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Bill V.
08-28-2012, 09:54 AM
The queen takes the lead :1:

Barb Craven has a big day at Finger Lakes
and rockets to the top of the list

Doc Sartin, must be very happy you took to his teachings so well.

Way to go Barb We are all so proud of you

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"""Barbs Big Day Bets $600 = Days Profit + $688

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barb craven
08-28-2012, 10:04 AM
Thank you so much Bill. That's high praise coming from you.

Bill V.
08-29-2012, 10:35 AM
A few finish up their 20 race cycles
2 winners yesterday at Finger Lakes
Barb C Race 3 $10.80
Noddub62 Race 8 $10.00

Just a few days left
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Bill V.
08-30-2012, 10:01 AM
Down to the wire. How will things shape up
Yesterday saw two winners
John Farraro hits race 8 at Del, $6.20 for a days profit of $148
TigerRose finishes his 3rd cycle with a $100 win bet at DMR race 7


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barb craven
08-30-2012, 10:40 AM
Amen to that Diane

pktruckdriver
08-31-2012, 08:52 AM
Let me say how proud I am that you rocketed to the top, way to go!!!!

Your purity of the Sartin Methodology , i thought always was a tremendous help to you, as I was cluttered with so many other methods before coming here, and I am getting better, thru practice and sharing with others.

I wish you well, and hope to see you at the top soon


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Bill V.
08-31-2012, 10:47 AM
Here we are, The final day
Its come down to this Barb Craven leads Midland333 by about $400
Midland has 4 races left on his cycle.
A few more are close to 20 races cycles so today should be
interesting

Friday saw
Midland hits a $60 place bet at DMR race 7
Boe catch a $100 win bet at AP race 1
BillV hit a w/p bet at Hoo race 9
Budman went 1/2 at CT winning race 4


Here is todays Scoresheet

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Bill V.
09-01-2012, 10:43 AM
The final day totals are in


Midland
Jimbob
and
Budman all gave it a good try on the last day
and It was a tough day for all three of them with almost every
bet a near misses

Here is the the final update

I have attached the Excel score sheet
PLEASE CHECK YOUR SCORES

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I will announce the official winners
Sunday

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rmath
09-01-2012, 11:08 AM
Congratulations to all the players who participated.
I enjoyed this months contest , and wish everyone good luck next month.

rmath