Synergism Conversion Test - MNR 08-10-12 Races 1 & 3

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Synergism Conversion Test - MNR 08-10-12 Races 1 & 3

I have attached the link for power point file with races 1 & 3 for tomorrows MNR.
You may view it full screen so that it can easily be read.
To see the individual screens just click on the arrow below the file to progress

https://www.box.com/s/e9c56642cf29593725c4

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Good Luck looks like your having fun

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MNR 081012 Races 6,7,8 and 9

Here are my Synergism 2 selections for races 6,7,8 and 9

I didn't have the time to post the visuals but will do so if needed,

Race - 6..........(#3) bet at 5-1 or better

Race - 7..........(#7) bet at 5-1 or better

Race - 8..........(#5) bet at 5-1 or better

Race - 9..........(#1) bet at 5-2 or better

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Good Luck looks like your having fun

The module works real well. I think this might be for you.:D

[alydar_ David]

Mountaineer Park
Friday, August 10, 2012
Race 8

http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewer.php?track=MNR&race=8&date=2012-08-10

Bill, you might be interested in comparing the manual input/output to yours.

For the track record I used the three year best time of 108 3/5. Normally I would use the actual track record of all time, but I think Ted has this set up to use the three year record and the purpose of this is to compare apples to apples.

I threw out the #2 and #7.

For setup I used #1's last race of 45 2/5 110 4/5

Pacelines:
#1 last
#3 4 back
#4 last
#5 4 back
#6 3 back

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#3 might steal the race at a price. Although it would have to be a price with that deficient third fraction. It looks like a relatively easy win for #1.

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[Bill V.]

Hello Bill and David

Here is my look
The race is an Alw non winner 2 lifetime There are no multible winners
Every horse has just their 1 maiden race victory

for my set up time I use the fulcrum horse 7 = 47 107.3
and the 3 year best time 103.1


Here are my pace lines and contenders

H1. Line 1 EF line 3 confirms
H2 No line
H3 Line 3 EP why back on dirt ?
H4 Line 1 P Line 3 Confirms
H5 Pass this girl, but will rate line 1 last race
MS winner in the mud otherwish no Plus races
H6 EP does well at MNR
only when its a off track NL
H7 P Mc15 winner 20/1 ML No line

My picks horse 1 - 4

Readouts

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Bill V,

I dont understand cant you just pick the pacelines in RDSS send that info
to Synergism and have the program do the calculations. It seems to me that
picking the the fulcrum horse is awfully hard to do especially since the
setup times are so important.

[Ted Craven]

Bill V,

I dont understand cant you just pick the pacelines in RDSS send that info
to Synergism and have the program do the calculations. It seems to me that
picking the the fulcrum horse is awfully hard to do especially since the
setup times are so important.

Yep, you can do that. Pick unadjusted pacelines in RDSS, send them to Syn2, enter a Track Record time, a 2nd call time, a Final Time in SYn2 (for Setup/adjustment purposes). You figure out what those 3 Setup Time values will be - just like you always did. Nothing magic.

Or - export RDSS' Adjusted times and forget about Setup info in Syn2.

Your choice. Nothing magic, just a time saver (plus you get RDSS, to boot ...)

Ted

[Bill V.]

Ted hits it right out of the park

With not having to worry about hand entering the times I can spend more time
reviewing the pace lines and doing my before race work figuring out pace and setup times etc.

Once I'm sure I understand the race, the rest is just a click away
No chance for tired fingers to make a costly error

Bill

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Just remember though the purpose of the setup times are

TO MAKE A PAR VARIANT not to make a time that the horses will
run against


The more like pacelines you can get up to 5 the better off you are

[Bill V.]

Hi Jeff I'm not sure how to do that
can you explain it to me win a race you have worked ?
Thanks
Bill

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Bill,

This is what Bob Purdy suggests on doing but if another way works for
you that is fine as well.

It is just a matter of picking your pacelines and whatever distances you
have the most of is your setup distance even though if it doesnt match
today's race.If possible you want the majority of races to be run at today's
track.

But come to think of it when your exporting RDSS info you wont be able
to do this unless you can enter your own distance of today's race.

Read the Syn 2 manual starting at Page 29 it will best explain this.

Jeff

[Ted Craven]

But come to think of it when your exporting RDSS info you wont be able
to do this unless you can enter your own distance of today's race.

Jeff,

When you export unadjusted pacelines from RDSS, it's just as if you manually entered them for yourself in Syn2: you still have to provide Setup Times to instruct Syn2 how to adjust the raw data it is receiving (either manually from you, or in a file from RDSS). Syn2 setup info includes a race distance, so you can change the distance if you like, to match the majority of paceline distances, just as you always did.

When exporting raw, unadjusted data (i.e. just as you would see in the DRF or BRIS PPs), it will be simpler if you just consider that all RDSS does is provide the paceline distance, running times and beaten lengths rather than you having to enter it by hand. You still have to make whatever decisions you always made regarding which lines to choose, and what Setup Times to use for proper adjustments.

I have provided an alternate to exporting raw, unadjusted data: you can also export RDSS Adjusted data, equalized by distance, by surface, by Daily and by Inter-track variants supplied by TrackMaster. When you choose this option, Syn2 does not prompt you for Setup Time info - the adjustments have already been done in RDSS.

You may use whichever suits or interests you, and experiment with both.

Please see the post I made in the original Poll thread, for info about the RDSS2 update I just released: http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpost.php?p=82960&postcount=29

cheers,

Ted

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Ted,

Thanks for the explanation.

I hope that after all the hard work you did that the people who voted yes
will get the RDSS program.

[mildeu]

Hello to Synerg users,
It was and is my desire to investigate the differences, enhancments, improvements or what ever. I can not accept what has been presented to me with out investigation. ("HERMAN SPENCER" from a long time ago and as taught to me by my hi-school english teacher(from a long time ago)), rejection prior to investigation......but I am sure you have all heard that stuff.

I present to you a simple race from Del Mar on 9 Aug 12 Race 1.
The running lines come from my intial run of the race i RDSS2.

The question was and is, does RDSS adjust the data adequately?

Please if you may and are interested peruse this screen shot.

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The running lines were from RDSS adjusted SYNERGY 11 download, entered into Synerg 111, without regard as to what my par times were from the last time I had edited them (a long time ago) ( it would seem that I have a lot of long agos) the # 4ITW horse was enterd from the present race for a what the
""""" would this look like(please excuse the language).
All I can garner from this simple experiment is that RDSS2 more than answered my curiosity.
Granted, this is only one race, the #4 horse came from some obscure? track, I went down to the 3rd line I belive?...I must give every horse in the race a chance...their owners and trainers did and do.

I will try to attach my screen shots, if they do not come accross, please PM me if you are intrested, with your e-mail address.

The point being is that RDSS works but only if you "BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU SEE"

Thanks Ted
Mildeu

[Bill V.]

Sorry
Thanks to Ted being able to add the screen shot, Things are clear now

The winner is tricky I suppose you could use the lines you selected

My look

This horse has a plus within a zero paceline last race. Its running style is somewhat early. Its last paceline does not make it a contender today, in this race
but It has the excuse of the race was the first attempt over the DMR surface,
It had the lead or battled up to the 1/2 mile point before fading
The connections are taking advantage of a 20% added bonus
Del Mar is offering shippers ship and win I think its called
So the horse got a trip on the track and now it fired

This pattern happens often I call it speed and fade, but becuse the 3rd fraction is so important in all Sartin programs these types rarely rate well

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