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partsnut
08-22-2012, 11:17 AM
SAR 08-22-12 Selected Races Using The RDSS Synergism Conversion Module
Races 2,3,6,8,10
Your participation, credible comments and opinions are always welcomed.
The screen shots can be view by (Clicking On The Following Link)
http://wp.me/pOzfB-dX
Bill V.
08-22-2012, 11:29 AM
Hi Bill
wishing you good skill today
Bill Is there anyway you can make the screen shots bigger
Even after I click to enlarge them and click view full size this is what I get
Its hard to see with these old tired eyes
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partsnut
08-22-2012, 11:36 AM
[quote=Bill V.;83405]Hi Bill
wishing you good skill today
Bill Is there anyway you can make the screen shots bigger
Even after I click to enlarge them and click view full size this is what I get
Its hard to see with these old tired eyes
Hi Bill,
Follow the link by clicking on it,
Then single click on the picture of the race you wish to see.
Then you right click to view. You should see a little magnifier with a plus inside.
Here is where you can enlarge the picture.
Best of luck. Have fun, enjoy and make some money.
Bill V.
08-22-2012, 11:49 AM
Hi Bill H.
Here is my look at race 8
The numbers are all adjusted from RDSS
the set up time is 112.1 149
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partsnut
08-22-2012, 12:01 PM
Enlarged Race Screen Shots
partsnut
08-22-2012, 12:15 PM
Hi Bill H.
Here is my look at race 8
The numbers are all adjusted from RDSS
the set up time is 112.1 149
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Bill,
I agree with the TPR screen. The (2) looks like the best sustained in a fast pace race.
If I may suggest that you should try narrowing down your contenders to at least 3 horses and not more then 5. I prefer to use 4 but will use 3 or 5 when necessary.
When Synergism asks you for the track record (Best 3 Year Time) and times for the 2nd call and final time, I would add the adjusted times of all your contenders (up to 5) depending on how many contenders you have. This will give Synergism II a more accurate assessment of the auto variant set up time.
clore1030
08-22-2012, 12:43 PM
Parts - your BL ranking on the third race needs a resort. That happens to me once in a while also. Just click another tab, then come back to it and it should fall in proper order.
partsnut
08-22-2012, 12:58 PM
Parts - your BL ranking on the third race needs a resort. That happens to me once in a while also. Just click another tab, then come back to it and it should fall in proper order.
Hi Clore,
Thanks.
Actually, I use that screen for comparison purposes but I make my final decision from Synergism II.
clore1030
08-22-2012, 01:37 PM
Good skill on the race, I'd like to see you romp a win with a 12/1 ML horse.
I'll probably pass as I can't get past Victory Island, but his last was a grueling effort after a long layoff and I'll never get 5/2 there anyway.
Bill V.
08-22-2012, 01:54 PM
Bill,
I agree with the TPR screen. The (2) looks like the best sustained in a fast pace race.
If I may suggest that you should try narrowing down your contenders to at least 3 horses and not more then 5. I prefer to use 4 but will use 3 or 5 when necessary.
When Synergism asks you for the track record (Best 3 Year Time) and times for the 2nd call and final time, I would add the adjusted times of all your contenders (up to 5) depending on how many contenders you have. This will give Synergism II a more accurate assessment of the auto variant set up time.
Hi Bill with all respect NO, yes you can suggest it but NO I will not narrow
it down to 3 or 4 :eek:
Every readout and all pattern's I have grown to use and trust are based on 5
contenders. Anybody who tells me that there are not 5 win contenders
in each race is correct but seeing how the 4th and 5th ranked horse compare to the top 3 is vital to my sucess I am not about to change that
When I see it in print or hear it from Howard Sartins mouth through audio
I will start narrowing down my contenders, till then its almost always 5
As for the set up time I prefer to use the fulcrum or fastest pace of the last race at a similar
distance and from todays track and surface, This too is pure basic Sartin Methodology and as Shoe says If your winning with it keep doing it !
I have decided to just use the adjusted numbers from RDSS so I really don't need track records or 3 year best times I use the set up time/ fastest pace of last race to help me in pace line and contenders selections so I don't need to
type those in either
Thanks
Bill
Bill V.
08-22-2012, 01:59 PM
Bill
Thanks for the new screen shots
clore1030
08-22-2012, 02:03 PM
I always use five also. It keeps my model consistent, so even if there are only two or three apparent legit contenders, I get the longshots from "hot" rankings in the factors that make up the total line score.
Right now, I have Hidden and BL as the hot ones for 6F at Saratoga, each winning at a 50% clip in the kind of races that I analyze.
clore1030
08-22-2012, 04:46 PM
I'm going with the 1 in the eighth at the Spa. My model just screams out that he's the one and the odds are quite nice presently at 11/1.
Bill V.
08-22-2012, 05:33 PM
Race 8 goes to the 5 horse
I sorted the race by FW I thought the distance of 9.0 furlongs would be a
factor so I was not sure about going sp
The 5 is #2 DR
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partsnut
08-22-2012, 06:25 PM
SAR 08-22-12 (Todays Wagers) With RDSS and Synergism
Yes, I will show you the money and I'm not fooling anyone.:D
Onwards and forward to WOX and PEN.
Bill V.
08-22-2012, 06:59 PM
great job Bill
nice hit in race 10
Bill V.
lone speed
08-22-2012, 11:56 PM
Every readout and all pattern's I have grown to use and trust are based on 5
contenders. Anybody who tells me that there are not 5 win contenders
in each race is correct but seeing how the 4th and 5th ranked horse compare to the top 3 is vital to my sucess I am not about to change that
When I see it in print or hear it from Howard Sartins mouth through audio
I will start narrowing down my contenders, till then its almost always 5
As for the set up time I prefer to use the fulcrum or fastest pace of the last race at a similar
distance and from todays track and surface, This too is pure basic Sartin Methodology and as Shoe says If your winning with it keep doing it !
I have decided to just use the adjusted numbers from RDSS so I really don't need track records or 3 year best times I use the set up time/ fastest pace of last race to help me in pace line and contenders selections so I don't need to
type those in either
Thanks
Bill
Great system to analyze a race, Bill......
I do not use Synergism...I have only used Entropy, Thoromation with Exdc and Kgen, and Synthesis.....I agree 100% with your steps to evaluate any given race.....with old Sartin programs....I have to admit that I do tinker with the pacelines for age adjustments and matchup adjustments according to Jim Bradshaw's principles from his manual....All concepts are in his manuals...I use my own guidelines which are from years of working races.....some races that I have reworked are from twenty years ago...same principles still apply today....
I like to use all possible contenders and worked the race down to four or five true contenders including the default horse.... The one who runs his own race after the early contenders fight for the early fractions.....
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