Pktruckdriver, November 2012

[pktruckdriver]

Let the fun begin.

[pktruckdriver]

Please be advised I am not comfy with this, but in order to comply with the BC contest part, I must post races that have too many foreigners and even thou TM has SR's , the question is how reliable are they?

I this race the 2 horse has by far the best speed rating, even if on turf, otherwise the 7 and 4 horse are the bestt of our country's runners.

Also , having to find value here, I can not bet the 3 horse, and at m/l 122-2 on the 2 horse, I will bet him, and see how well the TrackMaster Speed Ratings will be, leaving the choice between the 4 and 7 as the other horse to bet, guess I could go with highest odds, in order to get a hit, if I win, as the 3 will not give me a hit even if I won the bet.

Make sure you notice the speed ratings on the 2 horse, way above the others here.

50 win on 2 and 7

[pktruckdriver]

50 win 2 and 10

[pktruckdriver]

Loser to highest odds horse in a 5 horse field, and the 2 horse did not run to his speed ratings, what a wasted race

[pktruckdriver]

50 win 3 and 8

[Ted Craven]

Please be advised I am not comfy with this, but in order to comply with the BC contest part, I must post races that have too many foreigners

Patrick,

Just FWIW, you don't have to post ANY Breeders' Cup races for the Contest, certainly not any you feel uncomfortable with or would not bet yourself. Probably there are 5 races out of the official 15 that lend themselves well to pace/energy analysis and where you don't have to worry about Euro horses.

cheers,

Ted

[pktruckdriver]

Loser, again.

[pktruckdriver]

50 win on 6 and 1

this will be the last try today Iff this does not work.

[pktruckdriver]

Patrick,

Just FWIW, you don't have to post ANY Breeders' Cup races for the Contest, certainly not any you feel uncomfortable with or would not bet yourself. Probably there are 5 races out of the official 15 that lend themselves well to pace/energy analysis and where you don't have to worry about Euro horses.

cheers,

Ted

Okay, that is pretty tough, but it seems that they, the horse's are not participating with me today, maybe tomorrow they will.

patrick

[pktruckdriver]

Another loss, that is 3 , time to quit

[pktruckdriver]

:D No more splainin tis suff, it duz naw gud nymor , c u

[pktruckdriver]

SA 6th


50 w/p 8 horse Tapizar

screen later

[pktruckdriver]

SA 7th

50 win 5 and 7

screen ltr

[pktruckdriver]

SA 9th

50 win 8 and 12

screen later

[pktruckdriver]

SA 10

50 win 1 and 12


screen later

[pktruckdriver]

SA 12th

50 win on 2 and 4

screen later

[pktruckdriver]

SA 6th


50 w/p 8 horse Tapizar

screen later

Double Blue Star

[Bill V.]

Thats is something I did not think about
but I would say good job

31498

Yes you had a $9.00+ win bet
Yes you had a $9.00+ place bet

So then here you are

* *

[pktruckdriver]

SA 12th

50 win on 2 and 4


screen later

Blue Star Winner

[pktruckdriver]

Will this help me win ?

31532

31533

[pktruckdriver]

Finger Lakes 4th 11/6

Conditional wagering, if either drops below 7/5 then cancel both plays for thee race, thus having a no play

50 win 7 and 25 w/p 3

[pktruckdriver]

Finger Lakes 4th 11/6

Conditional wagering, if either drops below 7/5 then cancel both plays for thee race, thus having a no play

50 win 7 and 25 w/p 3

3rd, is a loser

[pktruckdriver]

Finger Lakes 5th

50 win place 7 horse

[pktruckdriver]

Parx 9th

Conditional wager , if either drop below 2-1 cancel race

50.00 win on the 3 and 9

[pktruckdriver]

Finger Lakes 5th

50 win place 7 horse

8 of 9 , a big loss

[pktruckdriver]

Parx 9th

Conditional wager , if either drop below 2-1 cancel race

50.00 win on the 3 and 9

2nd another loss

[pktruckdriver]

Finger lakes 6th

Hide the 9 horse, too low odds

50 win 3 and 7 ,

(should be place bets on these 2, but win will do)

[pktruckdriver]

Finger lakes 9th

conditional if both stay above 2-1, if not then cancel entire race

50 win 3 and 7

[pktruckdriver]

Finger lakes 6th

Hide the 9 horse, too low odds

50 win 3 and 7 ,

(should be place bets on these 2, but win will do)

9 wins of course, paid 4.20 to win, 4th loss of day

[pktruckdriver]

Finger lakes 9th

conditional if both stay above 2-1, if not then cancel entire race

50 win 3 and 7

Well the 3 did drop below 2-1, but it came in 1st , & then 7 , but this winner is nullified by my conditional wager guideline, oh well

[pktruckdriver]

PRX 9 th

100 win on 5 horse

[pktruckdriver]

prx 9 th

100 win on 5 horse

loss

[pktruckdriver]

Originally Posted by pktruckdriver
Finger lakes 9th

conditional if both stay above 2-1, if not then cancel entire race

50 win 3 and 7


Well the 3 did drop below 2-1, but it came in 1st , & then 7 , but this winner is nullified by my conditional wager guideline, oh well


I believe the Match up guy, Chucky , I think, did this race and missed it, yet I hit this race perfectly, and no comments at all. My only issue was the odds going too low, which they did, time to say this speaks for itself.

Match up guy, never answered me when I asked about help, actually most Match up guys are a bit mysteriously, which is not a bad thing, having read both books, loving the idea Jim had, and missing the Match up on RDSS2, I know it is still on RDSS, and it works well.

The issue is too be able to see the race by looking at the PP's , and not have to use the program to do the match up, thou it would help, part of having a computer is to speed up the handicapping process, is it not, sure you must learn the program, but the calculations and such, red and blue lines , giving you visual aids to see moves made by a horse, red/green and yellow , also show you the horse's best, does it not?

Pacelines, why is this the big issue, it is just a past race to see how well the horse can do in this race today, when you think about it, it seems pretty easy, that finding the right line and or lines, sometimes, ( to better evaulute the horse, by letting the program decide which line is best ) 1-3 lines will seperate themselves when the program sorts them, is this not correct. So why not put in 1-2 lines if you are undecided, always go with your gut feeling, it is right most of the time, 2nd guessing leads to losing, let me be proOF of that, I do it all the time, how you ask??

Well, playing races you need not play

like 2yr olds, FTS, forigener's in a race, too many unsable lines, A well carded race, 1 where any could win, (you must realize this type early on) , off tracks, these are the main races to not play, and yet I still do, that is called discipline, and I do not yet have total discipline yet, but am working on it.

enough I just had to vent a bit , and God forbid I teach anyone something

[Bill V.]

Patrick

I very rarely pay much attetion to races were the winner pays less than
$6.80

You used the conditional bet because you didn't want the 3 win price
if it went under 2/1

Chuckg posted a question in his post I answered it
then FTL replied and brought up the class edge the 3 had over the other EARLY horse # 9

I felt it was helpful to post the PP's of both the 3 and 9

Bill

[Ted Craven]

... and missing the Match up on RDSS2, I know it is still on RDSS, and it works well.



The only Matchup related tools in RDSS1 not included in RDSS2 are Tandems. Everything else is there. I agree Tandem analysis is an important Matchup component. It will return to RDSS2.

And just a hunch - perhaps if you addressed Chuckg more respectfully than 'Chucky' or 'Matchup guy', he might be more inclined to respond to you ...

Ted

[pktruckdriver]

The only Matchup related tools in RDSS1 not included in RDSS2 are Tandems. Everything else is there. I agree Tandem analysis is an important Matchup component. It will return to RDSS2.

And just a hunch - perhaps if you addressed Chuckg more respectfully than 'Chucky' or 'Matchup guy', he might be more inclined to respond to you ...

Ted

I was going to let this go, but then someone said do not, so I will explain this.

Chucky, was a typo, G Y are next to each, my laptop is years old and stcky, you've read my posts they are full of errors. No disrepect is intended, and for you to imply there was, that is just wrong Ted, why would you do that , why?

As for the Match up Guy, this is what Bill V calls him all the time, must I paste the post's here, or you can read them for yourself, And yes I PM'd him with no response, and commented on his threqad last month, only asking for some help with the Match up, and sorry, he did not respond, his right, I can be a handful to try to teach anything to, but a polite , sorry or not interested would have been nice for the so called Sartin Messenger winner of the month to do, and that would be that, but I feel , never mind what I feel, what you suggested was wrong, I in no way wish disrespect to anyone, ever, no matter what they do or say here, that is not me, sorry you and Bill V think that is who I am, when me and Ray came up with this contest and even funded the first month, but that does not matter, when dozens of people ask me about RDSS, as compared to other software I have used, which many people do, due to the exposure I have had on other boards, I always get them to come here, and I Skpye with or call them to see how they are doing , I never ignore people, no matter who they are, if they ask me anything I will respond to them, not ignore them, okay, that is who I am.

I am not a negative, disrespectful person, and will not be potrayed as one, ok.

patrick

[Ted Craven]

I stand corrected.

Ted

[Bill V.]

No need to repost anything
Yes I refer to Chuckg as The Match Up Guy I do it with great respect
To you he might be the "so called Sartin Messenger"
but he won the award and prize money with hard work and honest
pre and post race comments.

As for the rest of your comments Why don't you do as you said you would and keep them for Private Messages

Bill

[pktruckdriver]

FL 5th 100 place on #6 Patrick's Call

screens to follow


patrick

[pktruckdriver]

FL 5th 100 place on #6 Patrick's Call

screens to follow


patrick

Faded badly, loser

[pktruckdriver]

Aqu 5th (in the mud)

50 win 4 and 7


***special note, should have bet 100 to win on 8, but odds to low, going for value***

[pktruckdriver]

Aqu 5th (in the mud)

50 win 4 and 7


***special note, should have bet 100 to win on 8, but odds to low, going for value***

8 wins , pays 5.20, my 4 came in 2nd, another loser

[pktruckdriver]

Maybe this would help me wwin more conwsisitently.

[pktruckdriver]

Hol 1st

50 win 2 and 6

if odds stay above 3-1 , otherwise cancel race


patrick

[noddub62]

PK, why play a muddy track?

Bud

[Bill V.]

8 wins , pays 5.20, my 4 came in 2nd, another loser

Nice post race comments Patrick

Too bad you did not go with your first impression

$5.20 on a $100 bet gets you $260 and a gold star :eek:

nice follow up article thanks
Bill

[pktruckdriver]

PK, why play a muddy track?

Bud

Bud, yes it was listed muddy begining of the day, but just before the race ran was updated to good, and this was a pretty good play, but guess not good enough.

A pass was maybe the smartest play here, or go for the Gold Star and have played the 8 horse clearly a great contender for the win, but hidden due to maybe my attempt to get a blue star, which I guess may be wrong. Is it?

Thank you

Patrick

[Bill V.]

Just go for wins
The Blue Stars will come along
think about this ....

Guy A best 3 races he wins 1 of them it pays $18.00
he is a hero to his friends

Guy B bets 3 races He wins 2 of them one pays $8.00 and the other
pays $11.00

End of the day who comes out on top ?

both get 1 Blue Star

Bill

[pktruckdriver]

Hol 1st

50 win 2 and 6

if odds stay above 3-1 , otherwise cancel race


patrick

Another winner, the 2, but I think he went below 3-1, to 5/2 , he paid 7.20, oh well next time

[pktruckdriver]

hol 5th

50 win

9 Qiaona and 3 Rockin Cowgirl


no conditional bet needed here

[pktruckdriver]

hol 6th

50 win 7 Love that action and 9 Chu and I

no conditonal bet needed here


Patrick

[pktruckdriver]

Hol 7th

50 win

#7 Tribal Girl and #1 Akiss Forasee

Conditonal if odds stay above 7-2 otherwise cancel race


patrick

[pktruckdriver]

Hol 7th

50 win

#7 Tribal Girl and #1 Akiss Forasee

Conditonal if odds stay above 7-2 otherwise cancel race


patrick

Got 2nd , so again no winner

[pktruckdriver]

hol 6th

50 win 7 Love that action and 9 Chu and I

no conditonal bet needed here


Patrick

3rd, another losing bet

[pktruckdriver]

hol 5th

50 win

9 Qiaona and 3 Rockin Cowgirl


no conditional bet needed here

3rd again, another losing wager decision

[pktruckdriver]

CD 1st 50 win
2 and 9

[pktruckdriver]

CD 1st 50 win
2 and 9

2nd place, another loser, 1 race to go

[pktruckdriver]

Aqu 2nd 50 win 6 and 8

My last Race for this 20




PS: If interested I will start another 20 races in selection section

[pktruckdriver]

Aqu 2nd 50 win 6 and 8

My last Race for this 20




PS: If interested I will start another 20 races in selection section

3rd to a super Entry, which I tried unsuccessfully to beat, another loss

My Prediction this month is JimBob1002 will win this month, I wish you all the best

[Bill V.]

Hi Patrick

You sure got to the wire quick.

May I ask you a question,

How many of the 20 races you posted in the contest this month
did you have a real bet going also ?

Would you say you bet/posted each of the 20 races as if you had really bet $100 ?

GS
Bill

[pktruckdriver]

Hi Patrick

You sure got to the wire quick.

May I ask you a question,

How many of the 20 races you posted in the contest this month
did you have a real bet going also ?

Would you say you bet/posted each of the 20 races as if you had really bet $100 ?

GS
Bill

Never ending, Yes

[Bill V.]

Thanks Patrick

Good skill to you
Bill

[pktruckdriver]

This has been a bad month for percentages, but with just 2 hits , they were Blue Stars, I still did so so, from 2000 bankroll I lost less than 400, which is better losing 2000, or so I am told.

I see I had quite a few views and wanted to state that I think I was the only one to also do more 20 race cycles in the selection thread , stop by and see how I did there too.

Best to all

patrick

[Bill V.]

Patrick I guess i'm one of those growing your views
I keep thinking maybe this time you will
post a race with PP's or maybe just some readouts
Maybe this time you will post your bottom line, not just "I had that one"

Maybe this time you will post how much you bet in each cycle
and what your ROI was for each cycle ?

I see lots of selections so its good that you landed there
Glad you are providing reading material for the group.
Are you learning anything or playing a numbers game ?


GS
Bill

[pktruckdriver]

Patrick I guess i'm one of those growing your views
I keep thinking maybe this time you will
post a race with PP's or maybe just some readouts
Maybe this time you will post your bottom line, not just "I had that one"

Maybe this time you will post how much you bet in each cycle
and what your ROI was for each cycle ?

I see lots of selections so its good that you landed there
Glad you are providing reading material for the group.
Are you learning anything or playing a numbers game ?


GS
Bill

Bot it never stops with this guy, if he read my post's and saw what I was doing , and yes Screen shots were posted , to begin with, but then it got very time consuming to keep at it, and since there was no incentive , like a contest, I decided to refraim from posting screen shots to make my pasting time less.

I clearly stated many times in each post what my wagers were, yet someone does not read it, only be-littles it, for the record, it was 3.00 and 2.00 for the 2 horse 20 race cycles, and theen it was for my benifit the few times I posted 3 contenders, and then I stated I was seeing how well my contenders selction was doing it, it did well, 14 out of 20, once, but nothing mentioned at how well that did, but there was mention when I did one that was horrible, but did I expect anything less, not really.

I tried to do as Ted suggested, and post extra 20 race cycles here in selctions, so I did what he wanted me to do, sorry I did, I guess and a few others who wanted to see my possible contenders before narrowing it down to 2 only, I obliged them, but apparently others are confused or upset with my posting's, especially when they were pretty dang good last time out, minus the RP picks it would have been awesome. As for scrteen shotss I asked in my post about them and no one suggested I keep posting them, but a few suggested just doing the picks, so I did, oh well...life goes on.

Enjoy your day all

patrick

[Bill V.]

Patrick
I am sorry you have taken such dislike to me I am always offering
my help Its all my fault as I have failed for the way I try to
understand you.

I don't understand what your goals are ?

What I meant was about the screen shots and
posting selections was what did you get out of it?
What did you want the viewers to get out of it ?

Here is an example

Parx 5 my 3 contenders 2 4 6

That's it thats the type of "selection"
you made


Then after the race you enter your results
something to this effect
Parx 5 2 4 6 6 wins $5.20

That's great but If you bet $3.00 on the 2 and $2.00 on the 2
was this bet a success ?

sure you "had" the 6 but I never could figure out
how your "cycle" was going

Here is a silly horse racing joke

Guy 1 - How did you do today at the track ?
Guy 2 - I did good I only lost a few bucks

Sounds silly but it is also sad when people think
losing a little is good, What I wanted to see
was I was hoping you had slowed down and had a Winning Cycle
There is a difference between being a winning handicapper
and a handicapper that gets wins

Again I'm sorry I have offened you
Bill