How I use Syn 2

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Here is a race from CT last night it was the 2nd race and they were going
6.5 furlongs.Unfortunately for me I did not hit it so there is no reason to
fudge the outcome.

First I get my contenders and pacelines through the Bris PP'S then
enter horses in the computer.

By looking at the dream race I can see this race will setup late as the
3 and 5 have very dismal F3 numbers.

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The main reason I put this up is because of the importance I feel by
looking at the dream race segment. If you ever listen to the Synergism
tapes in the library Doc really stresses the importance of this screen and
felt many overlooked it.

The results which made me ill

6 won paying 12.00

EX 6-7 195.00

TRI 6-7-2 1400.00

SUPER 6-7-2-10 over 5000

A little boxing of horses can go a long way which is another point Doc
made on the tapes.

Dont know if this will help anyone or not but thought I would post
anyway

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Here is the horse that won I know it has nothing to do with Syn 2 but
it is one of my favorite trainer maneuvers.They ship the horse to another
track where he runs a dull race.Then bring the horse back to his home track
to same distance he won at and similiar class.

[gl45]

Jeff,
you remember we chat about metrics, here is your contenders metrics from last screen. The winner is in the top 3 70% of the time.

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You had it too

Shame I missed that one

[Bill V.]

Hi Jeff
here is my look with KGEN

I don't know if there were any scratches or the track condition so I
looked at all the horses

Here are my lines with running styles

Pacelines

H1 Early but no recent form NL
H1A Presser No form no line
H2 SP line 1 Plus line fits running style
H3 Early Line 1 (+) faded in stretch
H4 EP line 1 but the drop back and gain in the strtch is not its typical pattern
H5 EP Line 2 Plus
H6 EP line 2 Line 1 excuse poor effort at MNR
H7 Sus Plus race line 1
H8 Early but has either run poorly or quit last 5 races NL
H9 No Form
H10 Sus late Line 1 Plus line

Top 5 TPR and top 2 EPR and FFR horse into Kgen
2 10 6 7 5 3

Here is the energy generator
Just as SYn2 showed the 3 and 5 are early but have poor 3rd fractions
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Here is thoromation the 6 is the winner

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Here is the matching preplay screen
Varigate is SP
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Bill,

Nice job seems like both programs and Pino's homegrown
all agree.

Jeff

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it's easier to agree on who the losers are than agree on the winners

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tonight MNR #1....contenders...3-5-6-7-10....Syn2 select 10-6-7 for a win

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10 went off big ran 2nd

Go to Race: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

1st race - Mountaineer Casino Racetrack & Resort - Friday, November 23, 2012

Off at: 7:01 Race Type: Claiming Video Race Replay
Age Restriction: Three Year Old and Upward
Purse: $7,800
Distance: One Mile On The Dirt
Track Condition: Fast
Winning Time: 1:41.54
Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show
5 Barat Thomas L. Pompell 5.00 4.40 3.60
10 Sriracha Jose M. Davila 11.20 8.20
6 Sweep First Luis M. Quinones 5.20
Also ran: 3 - Stern , 2 - Final Curtain , 8 - General Stallings , 9 - Kisatchie Run , 7 - Ghost of Windhaven , 1 - Snack Daddy
Scratched horses: Euro Tiger (Veterinarian)

Wager Type Winning Numbers Payoff

$2 Perfecta 5-10 43.60
$2 Superfecta 5-10-6-3 913.00
$2 Trifecta 5-10-6 372.40
Winning Breeder: E. H. Beau Lane III

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#5 was ranked 4th, at post was 3/2 no value there....my top horse was #10 followed by the #6

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You really do great with NP2 and at Mountain too which I find
impossible to play

[partsnut]

I am not faulting anyones way of playing I just wanted to see a race analysis and selections for todays 2nd race at Woodbine.
I would like to see a "New Pace", Synergism 2 and RDSS Analysis if possible. (before The fact).

I am using Taulbots Amervar. Here's what I come up with.
I bet to win but I would also like to see choices for the exacta.

[Bill V.]

Hi Bill H.

I would do the race but it has too many issues for me.

Like to help but
The race is for 2 year olds
I don't do races for 2 year old races

The race is for Nw1xl
so almost all the horses are maiden only winners

The only horse with a win against winnners is horse 4 and its never
run longer than 6.5 furlongs

the 2 4 and 5 are sprinters
trying to route for the first time

No way I would touch this race
when there are so many others
to pick from.

Good Skill with your 4 and 6


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[raceman5]

NP2? shoe

[pktruckdriver]

woodbine 2

7 horse w/p

7 Rutherford Rd 4 21 41 13 2 1
1 Jazzy Jane 6 20 39 1 9 6

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The favorite ran down my (6) horse in the stretch.
As Bill V. stated: tough race.
However, faint heart never wins the fair lady.
No guts, no glory.
I believe these type of races offer the best opportunity and value.
In this game it's risk versus reward.
I always look to beat the favorite.

[Bill V.]

Nice call Patrick
7 wins but the price was short

BTW Here was NP

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NP2 is the updated version of New Pace which GL45 has down to
a science and Im VERY HAPPY he is doing well with it.

[Bill V.]

The favorite ran down my (6) horse in the stretch.
As Bill V. stated: tough race.
However, faint heart never wins the fair lady.
No guts, no glory.
I believe these type of races offer the best opportunity and value.
In this game it's risk versus reward.
I always look to beat the favorite.

Hi Bill H.

I totally disagree
I was asked to review 2 races yesterday
I pass both of them . Being a two horse better I saved
$8.00 by realizing I was not working, I would have been gambling
Why ? because I did not have a solid opinion on who would win
One of the winners paid $104 Your race winner paid $5.80
and I called that race a pass in the above post

Here are my notes of the $104 dollar winner race
The race was for state bred $5000 Nw2L a bunch of cheap horses
Many of which are long past their maiden wins

H1 Layoff EP No line 1-19 lifetime
H2 No line 20/1 Ml 1-3 lifetime
H3 Sus line 1 1- 7 lifetime
H4 Layoff but rates as best FF last line but not recent 1-16 lifetime
H5 Layoff EP 1-20 lifetime
H6 Layoff E 1-10 lifetime
H7 Line 1 1-9 lifetime
H8 Early Line 1 1-8 lifetime
H9 Early Line 1 1-6 lifetime
H10 No form 1-24 lifetime

I only have pace lines for 4 horses out of 10
3, 7, 8, 9,
The winner was horse 4 the 8 placed the 3 showed

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I watch races all day. After every race I look at the winners PP's
Here is the winner. I notice it has the best LPR based on using the last line
form every horse

It ran wel at FG last year but the long layoff is an issue
Issues and knowing when to fold and pass are like wins
You do it enough and you don't fall so far behind,
that when you win your not just getting back to even.



I only work races were I have determined in my mind that I am able to
identify the true contenders and I have used appropritae pace lines

If as I go threw each horses past performance I have any issues
I note them, Any more than two issues in a race and I pass


I bet one race yesterday. Race 7 from PRX which was my contest race
The payoff was a good return of about $9.20

I picked race 7 because 6.5 furlong races at parx are one of the distance
I do well at 8.3 furlongs is also
But I pass 8 out of every 10 races at those two distances
Why? because usually there are issues with sprinters and routers
and I find I'm going deep for pacelines or there are no comperable recent
plus lines.

I see nice payoffs at 6,and 7 furlongs and 1 mile at Parx all the time
But I will only work those distance when I have no issues and all my
contenders pacelines are recent plus races from line 1 or 2.
If I have to go to line 3 on more than 3 horses I will pass the race

Here are my notes from the race I won
Its a Start alowance race for NW2L
These are for the most part winners of a recent maiden race
They have had to have raced for a claiming price of $16000 and never won 2 races

H1 p2 line 2 1/10
H2 P2 Line 1 1/2
H3 EP7 line 1 1/7
H4 Layoff Press 1/4
H5 Press4 Line1 1/11
H6 NL 20/1ML 1/2
H7 Early7 Line1 1/6
H8 EP8 line 1 1/1
H9 EP1 Line 1 1/9

F1= 9, 1, 8,
TT= 9, 1, 5
F3 = 5, 2, 8

lots of Early speed nobody has an early advantage
Bet the 5 and 1


I have lines for every horse except #4 and 6
My contenders are 1, 2, 3, 5, 9 they all come from the last 2 pace lines

So I bet $4.00 based on a $2 bet 2 horses
I won $9.60

had I played around with the other two races
I would have bet $12 and won $9.60

Here is the winner of PRX7

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So all my win would have done was get me back to near even

I see many people who would agree with you
and just go for prices in races like FG2
I am not saying I'm right and they are wrong

All I know is I see lots of scratch off lottery tickets
and the racinos have more people playing gambline machines
and table games than horse wagers

So have fun and
may you say " I Had That Horse " often

GS
Bill

[Bill V.]

Getting back on the subject of old programs

The proper contenders and pace lines gets the winners
in al Sartin Programs

here is KGEN

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Bill,

Thanks for getting back using the older programs as I thought that was
what this forum was for, but your the moderator so it is up to you.


Also this shows that you can have interest without the use of a contest to
do so.

[Bill V.]

Hello Jeff

And as I say

If people post races using the match Up or an old program
and other people post the race using RDSS
Does that change the readouts you get using YOUR method ?

I think not
People can and should use what ever they want

I just did a race with KGEN but I had to get the PP's somehow
I could either hand enter the lines from what ever source I used
or I could export the raw pacelines from RDSS
or I could just us RDSS

I have tested all of the above and I find hand entry and exporting to be no advantage to just using RDSS
If RDSS is not that for everybody i'm ok with that
so that is why people are free to do what ever they want

Bill