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Bill V.
12-03-2013, 03:45 PM
Here is a race i was asked to work.

What I really liked was the person who asked me worked the race himself
and showed me his results

I gladly will work the race under those conditions :)

I did not project a fulcrum because there were many horses coming from sprint
lines

The 3 5 and 9 all come out of the same race in their last line

Here are my contenders who did I bet ?

I will post the PP's too

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Bill V.
12-03-2013, 10:03 PM
Sorry for the delay Cyber Tuesday Net traffic plays havoc on
trying to download and post screen shots :rolleyes:

First the dash board

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Now for my pace lines The 3 5 and 9 come out a last race tandem

I only have lines for a few horses I can speak on the reason why on any horse if you have a question

H1
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Bill V.
12-03-2013, 10:05 PM
horses

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Bill V.
12-03-2013, 10:08 PM
horses
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Bill V.
12-03-2013, 10:14 PM
Phase 1 and segs makes the winner clear and easy




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CaptDon100
12-04-2013, 08:11 AM
Hi Bill, Nice post
I just wanted to see what your thoughts where on some of the pace lines

#2 The 1st line is a plus line, but was eliminated because
wrong dist, sloppy track and no form. No line.

#4 (the winner) looks like an early but is labeled as a presser, and a P7 at that. The 1st line 41 days ago shows a plus move, but is the wrong dist, and has never done well in a sprint anyway, and is more of a route horse. The TPR screen makes me think it's an early runner with trouble finishing. I would give a plus line, but what made you think he would run today?

#7 Has moved down in class, last race that was 30 days ago and a long layoff of 198. The dist was 5.5 not comparable with todays race. I use last 4 races within 90 days. The horse did win some races in the past, but was a no line because of no comparable races.?

I am comparing my thought process to yours.
Thanks
Capt Don

Bill V.
12-04-2013, 09:15 AM
Hi CaptDon

about ....

Horse 2
I asked myself about this horse. what do I see for today that it has done before?

This is a route contender ?

Race 10 Poor race at 1 Mile
Race 4 Poor race at 1 mile after 5 fails sprinting.
Line 1,2,3 are sprints Line 1 is a plus race but at 6 furlongs
and a sloppy track so why would I base todays race on a sprint race
when It failed in its routes and it seems the only thing that ever helped it in a sprint was a off track ? :)

Horse 4 Line 1 is a sprint This horse shows a route win Line 2 is a (+)
so I used it. Since line 1 is a throw out line 2 is the line.

Horse 7 The last line is a + sprint. I took my chances and did not
enter line 2 and 3 because of the recency factor. Its a case of
being consistent. If these were better horses I would have a problem with this horse, but with this class of horse I look for + races at a comparable distance and surface within 90 days.

Thanks
Bill

CaptDon100
12-04-2013, 12:56 PM
Great Thanks for the reply
Capt Don

Mark
12-04-2013, 03:04 PM
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Bill,

This is my Entry screen it is quite a bit different than yours. Has there been an upgrade in the program that I am not aware of? Or does this have something to do with New Pace?

Thanks

Bill V.
12-04-2013, 03:41 PM
Hello Mark

You probably have different settings on your config screen

Ted gives us the option to use RDSS exactly how Doc set up and used Validator

So that is what I do.

here is what my config screen says

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Good Skill
Bill

Mark
12-04-2013, 07:21 PM
Bill,

Thank you!

Mark
12-05-2013, 06:49 AM
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Bill, I have changed the config screen so that mine matches yours
The attached above is the #4 PPs and TPR. The Adj SR do not match those you show still. The entry screen is also the same as before. Are you sure that the New Pace program doesn't in some way alter these ratings?

Thank You

Bill V.
12-05-2013, 07:49 AM
Hi Mark

As far as I can understand, Since you downloaded and ran the race
using the setting you first selected or which came with RDSS, You will always
see the race calculated based on those settings even when you change the settings

But now if you set the config to the same as mine, Every new card you
download and open will match mine.

I think it has something to do with cleaning out the cache

Maybe Ted or the Google site search can help you

I am always afraid to mess with my database, When ever I try
to re install cards I usually screw something up and Ted has to fix my boo boo

Bill

Ted Craven
12-05-2013, 09:11 AM
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Bill, I have changed the config screen so that mine matches yours
The attached above is the #4 PPs and TPR. The Adj SR do not match those you show still. The entry screen is also the same as before. Are you sure that the New Pace program doesn't in some way alter these ratings?

Thank You

Mark,

Re-assemble that race with the current (changed) Adjustment settings. Right-click on the race in the Card Summary.

New Pace affects nothing if you are not using it.

Ted

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Mark
12-05-2013, 11:16 AM
Thank You, Bill

Mark
12-05-2013, 02:32 PM
Ted,

Before I saw your post I had reconfigured and then clicked on the Clear Cache based on Bill's comment. This set up had the effect of showing that the horse was improving or running better Adj SRs. I find that type of forward movement reassuring and I like the graph. I used the Fig2 screen in Maxvel for Form calls and this approximates that. Possibly this will smooth out the adjusted numbers as I was using 100% and the adjusted numbers were wild at times.

Thank you

Mark
12-05-2013, 02:38 PM
Did you note the workout on this #4 horse 6 days prior to the race: 6f - 1:14.6. That was faster than I projected the race to run to the 2nd call. Who says workouts in at minor league tracks are all bogus? This one showed in the horse's performance.