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Michael Pastore
01-13-2014, 04:37 PM
How do you get the Trackmaster Software for the Sartin Methodology. What is the cost of the software?

Ted Craven
01-13-2014, 04:54 PM
How do you get the Trackmaster Software for the Sartin Methodology. What is the cost of the software?

Hi Michael, and welcome.

Please read the Getting Started page, here: http://www.rdss2.com/how-to-obtain. It describes the cost of data and the RDSS software, and also provides links to video and printed educational materials. Pretty much the whole website is devoted to educating folks about the Sartin Methodology and Matchup ideas. Be sure to spend time reading as much as you can in the Sartin Methodology Handicapping 101 (102 ...) Forum (http://paceandcap.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=116).

Per that Getting Started page, just send me an email when you'd like to use RDSS.

BTW - RDSS is not really 'TrackMaster' software: it uses TrackMaster as a data source, and is promoted there. But it evolved through decades of work by Howard Sartin and others, including myself and many others at this website.

Any other questions about making it work, just post here or send me an email.

cheers,

Ted

davidku
01-13-2014, 07:18 PM
I am new too but not from USA. Do you think Hong Kong or Singapore races able to use the software ?

Gonna download the software and look at what data needed.

Michael Pastore
01-13-2014, 07:47 PM
I am afraid you are asking the wrong man. I am just exploring the idea at this time. Sorry Mike

Appy
01-13-2014, 09:43 PM
David, the software will work just fine IF you can get PP files for Hong Kong and/or Singapore from Trackmaster.

Ted Craven
01-13-2014, 09:56 PM
I am new too but not from USA. Do you think Hong Kong or Singapore races able to use the software ?

Gonna download the software and look at what data needed.

Greetings David! RDSS only works with North American Thoroughbred and Quarter Horse races. TrackMaster, our data provider, does not provide data for Hong Kong or Singapore racing. RDSS won't work with the data provided by the Hong Kong Jockey Club. One of my dreams is to adapt RDSS to work with those data files for Hong Kong - not in 2014 though. I have samples of the data files and someone in Australia to hold my hand with them, and a good idea about what to do. Just no time right now.

I do believe that this year in North America we'll finally be able to wager in co-mingled pools for Hong Kong racing (though the time of day is a bit awkward). This availability will be important for some of the 'high rollers' in North America. I'm not sure about Singapore.

Some folks in Philippines and Australia work North American thoroughbred racing using RDSS, so you should also be able to, if that interests you.

I recall that some years ago, using the Matchup and incremental velocity calculations, at least one individual used to report in to Dr Sartin about his work in Hong Kong using Methodology concepts. It's somewhere in the older Follow Up journals. If I can find a reference about that, I'll post it here.

Ted

davidku
01-15-2014, 11:53 PM
If the data file required by RDSS are readable, I can write some codes to translate data from Hong Kong and Singapore to the format required. So, the software able to load it.

Tried getting the data for review but no access
http://www.paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9093

I just started about pace handicapping and all the while I just look at ratings. It seems fun and I want to learn more and ended up in this forum and I am a NewPace customer too.

Great to see such an active community.

CaptDon100
01-16-2014, 07:11 AM
RDSS works with Quarter Horse racing?

Ted Craven
01-16-2014, 10:51 AM
RDSS works with Quarter Horse racing?

OK, maybe it doesn't work consistently with QH racing ... One RDSS user is quite enthusiastic about how it works with Quarter Horses, but I'll let him speak up if he wants to. I check from time to time (HIA, RUI, LA, SUN, AJX, etc) and besides not having any internal sectional times or final time Adjusted Speed Ratings, not all PPs are represented all the time. I've never qiven QH racing the quality assurance check I would for thoroughbred racing.

However, a combination of Class Rating (CR), TrackMaster Speed Ratings and tote board seems to often point to profitable wagering opportunities (according to one player, at least).

Maybe right after (or before) we get Hong Kong racing going, we'll get QH races up as well ;):eek: (i.e. not this year ...)

cheers,

Ted

Ted Craven
01-16-2014, 10:54 AM
If the data file required by RDSS are readable, I can write some codes to translate data from Hong Kong and Singapore to the format required. So, the software able to load it.

Tried getting the data for review but no access
http://www.paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9093

I just started about pace handicapping and all the while I just look at ratings. It seems fun and I want to learn more and ended up in this forum and I am a NewPace customer too.

Great to see such an active community.

David,

I set you up for RDSS and NewPace and sent you emails to get you started. I'll send you a separate email about your data conversion project re Hong Kong & Singapore racing data.

Ted

CaptDon100
01-16-2014, 12:25 PM
Thanks, Ted

davidku
01-16-2014, 05:52 PM
Thanks Ted for granting me the access. Will wait for your email on the data conversion. I have the horse database and sectional time for HK and SGP but only thing I don't have is the speed figure.

In NewPace, speed figure was one of the requirement and Dave suggested me to look for other stuff such as ratings as a replacement. Haven't really go into the details yet as I am still a beginner in Pace Handicapping. I tried to check the forums but can't find a post catered for beginner and there are a lot of teachings and theory from different authors. What you reckon or which book you recommend for me to get started ?

Hope RDSS will is usable for my track otherwise will allocate some time to create some programs based on NewPace concept to try out.

CaptDon100
01-16-2014, 08:38 PM
Hello, I consider myself new around here, there are some very good cappers on here that have been around for a long time. Part of this method is to help others, and I hope I can give back, what has been given to me, this board is very helpful.
I found this link below to be helpful for me, when I first started RDSS.

http://www.paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5609

It is the "updated glossary" use that and the "search" on top of this page to do more research. The Follow Ups turned out to be the turning point for me, I read them when I first started, and didn't get it. I went back latter and really got, and it was a turning point for me, along with all the help on this board.


Watch the video's, there are a lot of them, all through here, use the search, and stick with it. It works.
Hope this helps
Don