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RichieP 11-22-2007 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by shoeless (Post 25698)
I didnt realize there would be such a difference putting in 0 for a variant or 19[actual]

ok good you are doing this to see for yourself. Now run a race using 19 var for all the horses. then take a screenshot of the ratings Jeff. Then redo the race giving everyone a 0 variant.

Now look at those ratings and then look at the other screenshot(with the 19 v).
Do the relationships(rankings) change? Or are you seeing the same rankings just with much different numbers?

You have now answered your own questions big bro and no matter what anyone tells you the work on your part is already done and the answer is within YOU.
Richie

bobp 11-22-2007 11:06 AM

Jcapper or Rdds?
 
I know what RDDS will cost when available, but what is this Jcapper program, and where is there info on it?

bobp

RichieP 11-22-2007 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobp (Post 25708)
I know what RDDS will cost when available, but what is this Jcapper program, and where is there info on it?

bobp

http://jcapper.com/

Fast4522 11-22-2007 11:21 AM

Jcapper is quite refined and it bears a $700 price tag the last I read. Which is all relative in relationship quality and what other products are selling for. In the case of $100 per year versus $700 one time many things you would consider, for me it is the data provider where Trackmaster is not the prefered vendor on a per file basis. Against the $120 per month data providers it wins hands down no bs involved, on that note its really who you are and how it fits your style, to me I am just a per file guy who is not going to consider $120 per month for data period, with that who does the best against the $120 number is the bargain in my books.

bobp 11-22-2007 11:23 AM

jcapper
 
thanks for the info.

bobp

partsnut 11-22-2007 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by shoeless (Post 25696)
Parts,Im not so sure that if you are keeping a good model that these numbers cant be used as stand alone.Jeff

Jeff,

From what I know, you are selective in the type races and the tracks that you play, which is all good and well.

If you were to query these type races at WOX with a program that could do this, you would find that the top (first 3) "TPR" numbers would have a negative ROI. I believe the 4th rating is positive and with that you won't get rich because it is minimal and not worth the effort.
Overall and in all type races this definitely holds true.

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Fast4522 Jcapper is quite refined and it bears a $700 price tag the last I read. which is all relative in relationship quality and what other products are selling for. In the case of $100 per year versus $700 one time many things you would consider, for me it is the data provider where Trackmaster is not the prefered vendor on a per file basis. Against the $120 per month data providers it wins hands down no bs involved, on that note its really who you are and how it fits your style, to me I am just a per file guy who is not going to consider $120 per month for data period, with that who does the best against the $120 number is the bargain in my books.
The cost of $700 is well justified if you play on a daily basis. The money you will save on data files ( $ 1.00 BRIS files and $ 0.25 XRD files) as opposed to
The newly proposed Trackmaster files and the yearly cost of a lease program. If you are a casual player the cost of the Trackmaster files will be more costly. Figure out what your costs would be over a year or two and convince yourself which is more prudent. Always taking into consideration as to which software is more flexible, accurate and has more overall utility for your individual purposes.

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socantra http://paceandcap.com/forums/images/...s/viewpost.gif
I wasn't aware that Jeff used the TPR numbers in JCapper.
From what I've read while doing the demo and using the "help docs". Total Pace was derived from TPR. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

shoeless 11-22-2007 11:52 AM

4 Attachment(s)
Richie,I did the 4th race from Penn as you suggested 1st set with 0 variant and next set with DRF variant

shoeless 11-22-2007 11:53 AM

I forgot the 4 in the 1st but wont make a difference.Rankings are the same but with 0 variant 6 is stronger play on TPR.

shoeless 11-22-2007 11:56 AM

RESULTS

6-10.60
7
2

EX 42.80
TRI-153.00

Dont ask I didnt play the race

Fast4522 11-22-2007 11:56 AM

Who pays $1 per file, even I misrepresent the facts, I only pay 80 cents per file and the PDF files (pp's) are free for the tracks I bet with Bris.

Nice to see the good folks here at P & C posting this Thanksgiving morning!


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