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shoeless 04-18-2008 08:40 PM

Thanks

thelyingthief 04-23-2008 07:47 PM

woodbine early: DO prefer trainers known to win off LO--there are a handful of trainers there who use the early part of the meet to make their season's profits; DO match up horses irrespective of recency; DO expect early horses, those Bradshaw is known to prefer, to win more than their share, despite the artificial surface; DON'T expect this to last; DO prefer horses with recent action IF they show a liking for the venue, although Aqueduct racing is cheap in the winter, and form from there does not transfer; DON'T expect great prices at the outset; DO make careful use of class criteria.

believe it or not, this is the most "formful" time at Woodbine, hence, it tends toward the chalkish; later, it gets A LOT more competitive, and a lot less accessible to past-performance, WYSIWYG kinds of handicapping.

course, that's when you make money.

tlt

Tim Y 04-23-2008 08:37 PM

Early tends to be KING all season just in varying amounts.

thelyingthief 04-24-2008 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Y (Post 32227)
Early tends to be KING all season just in varying amounts.

i absolutely disagree with this statement. in fact, several commentators at Woodbine, and the only good one, have stated stalkers are much more reliable bets--although this somewhat overstates the case, as each distance, class and age bracket has a unique profile.

however, it may be the races you select to play are early.

Tim Y 04-24-2008 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by thelyingthief (Post 32265)
i absolutely disagree with this statement. in fact, several commentators at Woodbine, and the only good one, have stated stalkers are much more reliable bets--although this somewhat overstates the case, as each distance, class and age bracket has a unique profile.

however, it may be the races you select to play are early.

The track I played everyday for the last 6 years is energy distribution EARLY, not POSITIONALLY EARLY.

One of the best was the Plate several years running Earliest (2nd call) of the bunch. Thanks Emma Jean and Mike Fox in the 2007 running. As a matter of fact the top three 2nd calls went 1-2-3. Mike Fox, Jiggs and Alezzandro.

shoeless 04-24-2008 11:26 PM

Tim,Thanks for sharing your info about Woodbine I appreciate it and best of luck to you.Jeff

Tim Y 04-25-2008 03:43 PM

As hard as they have tried to live "up" to the promises the Polytrack people made to them, the track remains a speedy paradise. I know FOR A FACT, that the track had an agreement with the installers who had to come back twice to add "jelly cord" to the track to keep the kickback down. A lot of work went into this surface and it still remains speed favoring.

I just finished reading a Racing Post article about the new Grand Leighs course in England and they concluded the same thing about Polytrack.

Tim Y 04-25-2008 04:41 PM

I cannot recall seeing odds this high on the top three as in the 6th today in Toronto. 80/1,22/1, and 50-1 were the top three.

Triactor paid $112,033.50 Exactor was $1446.10


6th race - Woodbine - April 25, 2008
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
9 Jentamjay 167.90 73.80 31.80
7 Janet's Star 21.30 10.80
5 Love Iz War 22.40

$1 Triactor 9-7-5 56,016.75

Tim Y 04-25-2008 06:54 PM

Thye must have been checking out the board to see if ALL the lights work.


10th race - Woodbine - April 25, 2008
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
1A Believer's Lady 107.10 49.40 24.40
3 Flashy Notebook 16.90 9.50
12 Paynes Lucky Charm 5.90

$2 Triactor 1-3-12 15,681.70
$2 Daily Double 8-1 246.20

thelyingthief 04-25-2008 08:44 PM

Out of curiosity, Tim, what was your return on investment at Woodbine last year? Your best year? Your worst year?

tlt


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