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Tim Y 06-03-2008 04:33 PM

6th Fort Erie lawn bowlers
 
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The significant different Fort Erie turf crowd substantiates yet again that it is a unique surface requiring constant vigilance as it is different than most. EARLY wins again.

I could go on and on, but the point is: when you have dirt horses running on turf: they run like dirt horses. The occasional REAL turf horse will overtake them.


6th race - Fort Erie - June 03, 2008
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
6 Ballisticstatistic 7.30 3.30 3.00
1 Kazillion 3.50 2.80
4 Trajectly Kool 5.20

$2 Triactor 6-1-4 183.10
$2 Exactor 6-1 17.20

Tim Y 06-03-2008 05:09 PM

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Again, today, the limited typical turf ability is just not around at some of the courses where it is an after thought as in the 9th at Philly. The winner is earliest, relatively to this group.
9th race - Philadelphia Park - June 03, 2008
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
8 Allnightdance 4.80 3.00 2.40
2 Kayla's Smile 3.20 2.20
4 Queenly Luck 2.60

$2 Daily Double 5-8 48.40
$2 Exacta 8-2 17.40

grahors 06-03-2008 05:21 PM

granted, you guys are using figures from the software you use.
Pizzola used PPF.
Does anyone remember how to calculate the PPF's. Is the fulcrum needed??
Cec:confused:

Ted Craven 06-03-2008 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by grahors (Post 33921)
Does anyone remember how to calculate the PPF's. Is the fulcrum needed??
Cec:confused:

PPF = F3+time value of 2nd call beaten lengths.

Ted

grahors 06-03-2008 06:23 PM

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Ray Taulbot software

grahors 06-03-2008 06:27 PM

Ted,
F3 is late pace??

grahors 06-03-2008 06:33 PM

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Chalky!

Ted Craven 06-03-2008 06:34 PM

It is Fraction 3, i.e. the time between the 2nd call and the finish. Pizzolla creates PPF by taking the F3 time and adding 1/5th or 2/10th seconds per 2nd call beaten length (or you could do the equivalent by velocity, FPS).

Ted

gl45 06-03-2008 06:37 PM

Cecil,
it seems you're studying some of RT, from the selected pacelines.....I love it.

grahors 06-03-2008 07:29 PM

Pino,
Back in the saddle again...heehaaa. Feeling good, bud.
In maiden races, I have had good luck by not putting any filters on the software and letting it find the best "pace of race" for each horse. as long as the horsie has shown some sign of life in that race.
Other races, I do filter for relative distance and surface and let fly...sometimes crawling into the wayback mobile....
Cec
Been doing alot of Taulbot reading.....love his style and "old" ideas.....


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