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Bill V. 08-04-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lone speed (Post 91590)
Bill V.

Hello Bill...

When you get a chance, can you post the screen shot of the energy tab of Rdss of your readouts.

Fort Larned is number one on Epr but looking at the early pace fractions of Cross Traffic, I am sure that he has an huge first fraction advantage in this matchup; even after adjusting for Belmont's one turn mile..

Thanks in advance...

Lone speed

Here you go Lone Speed

Here are the PP's with the Energy Tap on the bottom

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Bill V. 08-04-2013 11:59 AM

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sorry I can't get all 10 lines on the bottom tab

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Bill

Ted Craven 08-04-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Latekick (Post 91612)
Ted real quick question, I see you entered 2 pace lines, how do you do this on RDSS2? Anytime I click a line it selects that and and when I click another rline it switches to that one, how do you select 2 lines?

Use Ctrl+leftclick (click) for multiple lines. (FWIW, select ALL lines by clicking the checkbox in the header). With multiple lines selected, simply click on any line to deselect all the others and select the one you clicked. To deselect one of multiple lines but leave the others still selected, just CTRL-click on the one you are deselecting.

Here are some other other keyboard/mouse click combos and short-cuts:

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9263

Ted

lone speed 08-04-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ted Craven (Post 91611)
LS,

Here are the RDSS Velocity and Segments screens, using Bill's contenders (roughly the same as what I had originally, though I chose to include Fast Falcon who was never going to influence the early going).

The F1 columns show either of Cross Traffic's last 2 lines as clearly superior to Ft Larned's. Indeed, Cross got to slow it down more than 1 full second at the 2f point and more than 2 seconds (!) at the 4f point compared to his 2 last lines. All that 'gas' was still in reserve at the top of the stretch ...

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I did bet Ft Larned and Cross Traffic to Win, which just about covered my losing Exactas ...

Ted

Ted and Bill
Many thanks!!!

Thanks for the time to snag and post the energy screens.

My point was to emphasize the myriad of tools available within the Sartin Methodology. The power of the Methodology is not in "one magic screen"; but in using the tools at our disposal, to break down a race or the match-up of a given race.

Many have strived to "emulate" Jim "The Hat" Bradshaw's matching prowess. It is not necessary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have Sartin programs or readouts like the Energy readouts to aid us what Bradshaw could do in his mind, "mystically".


Bradshaw's Matchup concepts! Sartin's Readouts!!!

Ying and Yang as Doc Sartin alluded to enigmatically, many times in the Follow Up issues.

We will not analyze every playable race correctly or proficiently; but we can get our "fair share" depending on our handicapping skills and our paceline selections.

The final process is not an automatic step where one just zoom in on the final readouts.

It behooves one to dig deeper into the readouts of the program and to analyze the early pace match up within the programs.

Thanks again, Ted and Bill :cool:

lone speed 08-04-2013 01:22 PM

From the Hat
 
" The Hat"
ok here is the first thing Jim says to look for ( see screenshot).

So in this race which horse or horse(s) is most likely to get out of the gate FIRST and LEAD ?

If you find just one horse then we look and see if that horse can expect any PRESSURE from another early or early presser at the 1c and/or 2nd call.

What does this race look like? how does it " set up" to be won?

are there a lot of early/ early press that might set it up for a sustained to win?

is there little or no early pressure that would point to early/ early press having a BIG edge?
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