That sounds good. Only a couple of requests. First, can I wait until Sunday or Monday's Pha card? I will be pretty busy the next couple of days. Also, when assigning a race to me I just ask for no maiden routes. I almost never play those type of races. Thanks.

It should be a fun exercise.

We wont assign races just pick a one in advance and let us know what pacelines you used.Let's do both Sunday and Monday's cards that way it gives us plenty to choose from.I always wanted to see how Syn 6 would do anyway and compare against Syn 4 and RDSS or any other software that uses TPR numbers.So far then we have


N Wearner Syn 6

Richie RDSS or Syn 4

Ted RDSS

Me Syn 4

I know there are other software as well that fall in this category such as Pace Evaluator or Essential Handicapper so feel free to use those as well .As far as screens goes I guess TPR screen is manditory other then that show what you want.If someone else has any suggestions let em rip nothing is etched in stone.Jeff

Can we add whatever races are being played in Saturday's TVG NHC contest? I think NW and I and Richie (at least) will be working them anyway.

Ted

Ted,Fine with me whatever you guys want.Jeff

If you use TSN files and bet thru TSNBst, you can knock that down to 40 cents, Why are you using such overpriced data?:D

Dick...

Good question Dick, and the answer is because the data I am paying extra for is not in the tsn files. I based my program on the Bris single file format a long time ago, the last revision was a poly flag to look up a table I programed to equalize poly with turf and dirt. While the table was not Bris, but my own defined table, the flag was right where Brils noted it was. I find the speed figures much better than alot of other data providers. Not to mention the Quiren and many other nice fields I use.

Steve

I'll try to get those posted. I have company through Saturday. If I can get the ScreenHunter tuturial read tonight and have success then I'll try to post some output either tonight or tomorrow. I'm definitely playing in the contest, but it may be a thing where I have to put some entries in early, leave it alone and hope for the best. Oh wait a minute, I'm gonna win!

I won't be able to post today's races. Heading to the city for the day in bout an hour. Best of luck to everyone today in the contest.Entered the contest myself but did not use software reads.


I will do Shoe's Philly cards on Sun/Mon.

Has there been a way to select lines that has been worked out/discussed? Last line,best of last 3,last line within 1/2 furlong of today's distance etc etc?

I agree it should not be about selections but rather readouts.

NW VERY cool of you to jump in like this and help out man. Seriously glad you found Bill's site

good
 

I wish every one the best

Good Skill
to You

Bill
Enter this contest today. http://www.ntra.com/nhc/tvg2/

Go for it! It's free and the format suits you to a glove. Go for it!

Give me a ring if you need help setting up a user/pass

Bill,This isnt a contest and Im hoping you will participate as well that's the main reason I suggested Philly.I thought it might be interesting to see how the different programs handled TPR numbers.I agree with Richie it's not about selections but readouts,Im very interested to see how Syn 6 fares nobody has ever posted scrrenshots before.Jeff

I think everyone does whatever race they want from Philly for Sunday and Monday and use your own paceline selection.Just when you post the race let everybody know what pacelines you used so we can rerun them through our programs.It really doesnt matter if it's the same race or if once you post it the others post that race after it's run or not.IT'S NOT A CONTEST JUST A COMPARISON.If this is ok with everybody fine if you have a better way post it.Jeff

Synergism IV DRF Variant
 

Attached is a screenshot of a portion of the par file that Synergism IV uses in it's calculations. Let's use PEN 6 furlongs as an example. Working from left to right is the Track - Distance - Average Daily Variant - Fractional Par Times - 3year Track Record - and Track Class.

To get a zero adjustment for Pen you would need to enter 14 for sprints and 19 for routes if you are using the DRF variant. The only difference this is from the original workings in the book PMTR is that they used 17 for all tracks and distances.

Entering 0 for PEN is that you are essentially saying the track was much faster than usual and it would adjust TPR's down. If you have a Pen sprint with a variant of 28 you are saying the track is slower and would adjust TPR's up.

Synergism III vs Synergism IV
 

To my way of thinking Synergism III TPR readouts will more closely resemble the readouts of the original concepts as described in PMTR. Synergism IV has more flexibility in what adjustment you can use, and I think it is making use of the fractional pars. Synergism III may be using the 3 year best as opposed to the fractional pars.

Synergism IV most definitely uses the average daily variant if you have it set up to use the DRF variant, I think it uses the fractional par times instead of the 3 year best, and it will also use the relative track class which if you don't like you can turn it off in the set-up menu.

These are just educated guesses on my part, as I did not create the program and just using the concepts put forth on PMTR to make sense of it all.

Houndog,Been worrying about you I have been e mailing but no reply,I hope everything is ok.Why dont you join in on this if you have time and use Syn 3 it might be interesting.Jeff

Home E-mail
 

Jeff, my home e-mail has been acting up lately. I think my ISP was having problems with their e-mail server. Everything seems to be back to normal. I would be happy to run some races through Synergism III as it would be good to compare the different programs.

Let me know what races you want me to work and I will post screenshots here.

Houndog,You can choose as well it's from Philly on Sun and Mon.I will get things rolling and will post on another thread Philly races sun and mon.Jeff

Hmmm,


I was watching this thread from the shadows and was very interested in this study.


Dallas

Opps,


Nevermind I found the thread.


Dallas