Richie,I was also going to do it with 17 as variant and then plus or minus but I forgot which way is which.If a horse has a 21 would that be plus 4 or minus 13.Jeff

Jeff,
Ok things are definitely different from rankings to R/S on some of the horses.

This appears to be telling us that THIS program is VERY sensitive to what is being given it regarding pace line variants.

So looking at the program you have 3 choices if I am correct:
1) DRF variant - where you simply enter the variant as shown in Drf(Bris single file)

2) Beyer variant - where you enter the beyer number for the paceline and adjustments come from that and t-t

3) Projected variant - where t-t are figured but the program ignores any variant you enter and makes it's own from the race match up.

Purdy has a bitch of a program here (meant as a compliment fwiw). Hat and Bob Cochran told me NOBODY in Pirco bet more money than Bob and he used his stuff. Gotta respect

Good work Jeff

Hi Jeff

From the pace launcher manual

(first check point I can across)

Quite simply, The auto adjust ignores horses coming from
DRF daily variants of 16,17,and 18 and ADDS 1/2 point to
a horse rating for every DRF daily variant point over 18
and subtracts one half point for DV's under 16

so maybe for you a 21 would be to add + 2 ?

jim
partsnut

I have no idea whether Jeff's TP rating is derived from the TPR ranking or not. It doesn't really matter, because the TPR number itself tells you nothing about pace. The EPR and FFR are pace numbers. The TPR is a combination of the two and is in effect a speed rating that has nothing to do with pace.

A TPR of 180 can be achieved by a combination of EPR90+FFR90, EPR95+FFR85, EPR85+FFR95 or any number of other combinations. The EPR and FFR are the pace components of the ranking. The TPR by itself is a speed rating or total energy rating and tells you nothing about whether the horse used that energy early, balanced or late.


Dick...

Richie,Appreciate your input so I guess the next step is which way is best.I guess I will stick with the DRF variant.Jeff

Dick,
Agree totally that TPR is a speed rating of sorts. I do use it as one of my main factors. Mostly to try and figure out how much "gas" each horse has in it's "tank".
I look at EPR of each horse and try to figure a "comfort" zone for each horse.
Next, try to predict a viable EPR for todays race.
Then I compare this to each horses comfort zone and start adjusting TPRs.
In the comfort zone, 1 for 1 adjustment...TPR stays pretty much the same.
Upper end or above the zone, 2 - 1 downward adjustment effectivley decreasing LP and TPR.
Then I rank em, look at form and pull the pin. HeeeHawww.
Just part of my style.....
Cecil

Bill,Thanks.

Grahors,Can you elaborate more if you do mind on how you go about projecting the EPR?Shoeless

Shoe,
Simple explanation (need to run some last minute errands before people arrive).....
I look at E and EP runners with 5 or more Quirrin spd pts. "Good" races, basic surface and distance, last 3 or 4 races. I look for the "best" EPR of these and that is my target figure. I try not to look at any races with any stretch loss.
Gotta run.....HAPPY THANKSGIVING....I will keep checking in and post more later.
Cecil

thanks for sharing,good to get alternative ideas.Shoeless