Okay, Richie I'll bite on this one. What was The Hat's guidance when he was left with Mars type horses, pass the race or match up as best you can or look for the next closest horse with some kind of power move, or other?

He told me they win when the early AND the pressing groups fight through the 2c-sc, exhaust themselves the mars guys can win. He did not like them Bill

Then he told me I better be right picking them otherwise he>>>>>>
:)

This might've been the case (and still is) on dirt tracks. POLY (and turf) is different in that a horse can close from far back without the benefit of middle movers or a contended pace up front. This is why I just love CALI racing. Sure, some of the traditional ways of looking at things still hold but the racing is a hell of a lot fairer and the best horse has a better chance to win. This type of racing puts entails more of an emphasis on WHEN a move is made, and the type (in terms of setup) of race rather than (numeric) pace.

I don't know what I was seeing when I posted that I like the 4 and 6..... I do like the six but the 4 was a speed horse and I knew we were looking at closers. My only guess is I meant to say the 5 and 6 which is what you came up with.
I guess this is sorta like reboarding LOL... only the race has not run,,, so maybe not.:)

PS - Spent some time today in Hat's Forum , I have a lot of work to do

John
That is EXACTLY what Hat used to tell me to look for in the result charts when trying to figure a poly track out.

He would tell me to look and see WHEN the winners were moving to the leaders. I'm dead serious. You sounded like an echo for a minute

At current odds the #10 is gone from my mind

Darn, I can't believe the other jockeys let the 7 get by with such an easy lead. The 6 caught everybody else but the 7 had the jump on him after that trip.

Result
 

7 wires, 1 and 9 no shows early.

Fat price :(

Couldn't force myself to put 7 in one hole. Bet 6 to win/place and boxed 6-7-10 for a buck. Thanks for the example

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