Pace and Cap - Sartin Methodology & The Match Up

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Originally Posted by RichieP

First off Welcome to Binder's site.

I am curious how you and Dap could have such vastly different readouts using the same software and same pacelines. In reading both your posts it is clear you both are LONG TIME users of Synergism. This racing really is an amazing thing.

I see Houndog's readouts with Energy! and they are very similar to mine.Being a novice I am greatly encouraged.The point being the readouts are very similar using the SAME pacelines.

Question to both you and Dap if I may. How do you deal with adjustments with that program? I know someone that uses it also and he just enters the raw pacelines. any feedback on what you guys do would be great.he also is a long time user and fairly proficient with it.

Richie

Richie:

The way I work Synergism is that in this case I would handicap the entires based on the track record of 9.0 furlongs and thn I would add up to five pace lines for the 9.0 furlongs with the entrants. For example I would use the following:

Track Record 1:46.4
Pace line: Brother Derek 1:11.1 1:48.0
Pace line: Bob and John: 112.0 1:49.0
Pace line: Sinister Minister: 1:09.4 1:48.4
Pace Line Barbaro 1:11.0 `:49.0
Pace line Sweetnorthernsaint 1:13.0 1:49.4

Since the program only allows five pace line to comapre the entrants against, these are the ones I would use.

The interesting part comes in that when I input AP Warrior, Bluegrass Cat,Steppinwolfer and Cause to Beleive, I input their 8.5 furlong race line. The software alogorythms of Synergism looks at the shorter distance and applies it to the handicapped distance and provides I guess what you would say is a estimated adjusted time to fit the longer distance profile. Mush the same when one is handicapping a 7.0 furlong race and several of the contenders pace lines are for 6.0 furlongs or vise versa.

I have been doing is this way for years and I will admit that when I used the program diligently, it worked.

As far as adjustments for a Grade 1 or a Grade 2 race f this caliber I don't make any adjustments as it is the best against the best.

The only time I make adjustments with Synergism is when I am handicapping lower level claiming races and a horse is stepping up in class off a win or competities race and I want the program to realizr that the race inpuutted was for a level with a adjustment between -.15 ~ -.45

I rarely adjust downward as if the horse is dropping his raw numbers better be good enough to win or why else is he/she dropping.

On a more serious note, I have not yet seen anyone here thus far apply Doc's established rules for establishing contenders for the Kentucky derby. It was posted and I thought it to be very helpful in narrowing down the potential filed of 27 horses to less than 10 contenders right now. Again this is what Doc said was the proven formula!

Dap!