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Ted Craven 11-24-2009 09:52 PM

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Race #6

Attachment 18202

Win #5, #4

Exacta Box #2, #4, #5

Ted Craven 11-24-2009 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BJennet (Post 61723)
Hi sql,

This should better be answered by Bill or Ted, but I do believe that the colors stand for Average Purse Value rank. Best of the last 3 at same distance or surface is standard Sartin practice, but I will go back a bit further if I don't find a comparable within those limits, and the timeframe is within reason - for me 90-100 days. Also, on turf races, many, myself included, use the Pizzola window - the best race in the full (visible) record. I am a value player, so for me, the odds are key. It would be better if others here answered that question. Best of luck.

Cheers,

B Jennet

Scott, oops - just re-read your 1st question more clearly. BJ is almost right - it's the Class Rating (CR) shown on the Entries screen, which is part APV, part consistency.

Ted

Ted Craven 11-24-2009 09:59 PM

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Race #6

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Hide the favourite, bet the next 2 (not what I did).

BJennet 11-24-2009 09:59 PM

Thanks for the heads-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Craven (Post 61726)
Scott, oops - just re-read your 1st question more clearly. BJ is almost right - it's the Class Rating (CR) shown on the Entries screen, which is part APV, part consistency.

Ted

Hi Ted,

AFAIK that feature isn't included in Spec 160, no?

Bill V. 11-24-2009 10:00 PM

Sq
 
hey Scott

Listen to Ted and many other good posters here read your follow ups and manuals and you will be a winner
The three best things you can use to make final decisions in RDSS
1. Odds
3. VDC
3. The Early/ Late Graph

By the way Scott is a long time member of our group
Way back in the beginning when Pace and Cap
was just a small yahoo group named VDC Messenger
with just a small membership
Scott helped put us on the map with a plug on
Pace Advantage.com and set us off on our way

Thanks for your help Scott

Bill

Ted Craven 11-24-2009 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BJennet (Post 61728)
Hi Ted,

AFAIK that feature isn't included in Spec 160, no?

No, it's not.

BJennet 11-24-2009 10:09 PM

Race 7 - nightmare city - pass
 
Fuhgeddaboutit.

Ted Craven 11-24-2009 10:16 PM

OK, I have to retire for the night. Hope some more good ones come along for the rest before the end of the evening.

I bet against several favourites who beat me - no shame there. I over-handicapped due to the slop, a bit, and logistically over-reached a bit tonight posting and betting at the same time. Not an excuse at all, but just my quick post-mortem of my practice tonight. Normally, I work my races in silence and concentration. I'll go back over each race and decision, and already I can see that sticking with the top 2 or 3 BL/BL and hiding low-odds favourites was either pretty close to or actually was a positive ROI win betting tonight. The slop and scratches and reworking my races, and babbling on the phone with my Mum, made it a bit more work than normal.

Scott - hope there are some possibilities here for you. Watch ALL the videos - download and work the races. Even this card, after the fact. Mock up your own paceline selections after the ones I posted, but feel free to challenge my choices and see what moving parts were involved in these decisions.

Despite a 'losing' evening, I notice that I feel emotionally even-keeled, which is a good thing. We can communicate privately about follow up from here.

Have a good evening, BJennet, and Bill, and Scott. Mum, nice time spent on our game tonight!

Cheers,

Ted

BJennet 11-24-2009 10:21 PM

Thanks for the exchange
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Craven (Post 61732)
OK, I have to retire for the night. Hope some more good ones come along for the rest before the end of the evening.

I bet against several favourites who beat me - no shame there. I over-handicapped due to the slop, a bit, and logistically over-reached a bit tonight posting and betting at the same time. Not an excuse at all, but just my quick post-mortem of my practice tonight. Normally, I work my races in silence and concentration. I'll go back over each race and decision, and already I can see that sticking with the top 2 or 3 BL/BL and hiding low-odds favourites was either pretty close to or actually was a positive ROI win betting tonight. The slop and scratches and reworking my races, and babbling on the phone with my Mum, made it a bit more work than normal.

Scott - hope there are some possibilities here for you. Watch ALL the videos - download and work the races. Even this card, after the fact. Mock up your own paceline selections after the ones I posted, but feel free to challenge my choices and see what moving parts were involved in these decisions.

Despite a 'losing' evening, I notice that I feel emotionally even-keeled, which is a good thing. We can communicate privately about follow up from here.

Have a good evening, BJennet, and Bill, and Scott. Mum, nice time spent on our game tonight!

Cheers,

Ted

Take care, Ted, and best to everyone.

Bill V. 11-24-2009 10:23 PM

Best
 
Thanks Ted

Like Howard said

"Tommorrow will be better '''and it will


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