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RichieP 07-04-2007 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by emilio840 (Post 21007)
Richie. Do you always use the last line to match the contenders.

emilio

NO but I DID work THIS race exactly as I described. Jim will describe his way later.

The Matchup is NOT rule based.

You can work the race anyway you see fit.

RichieP 07-04-2007 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by admin (Post 21006)
Hi Rich
I got It :)
My thoughts were the 4 and the 5 I see how tight it was with the 7
things would have worked out for me If i did the race because i was getting $13.00 + on a 5/2 ML and I didn't even put in the FAV
#6 Thanks for your explanations and screen shots
The chant and your teaching helped me
I did the race as if Doc were looking over my shoulder
and I was in a good place focused
I used val 4 basic line selection and used the MUG and E/L
screen along with BLBL
This method is 100% a plus thank you!!!

Bill
I knew you were gonna get the winner! Just that feeling again bud.

RichieP 07-04-2007 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by richrosa (Post 21005)
Also, this leads to another question. If the horse never faced a 22.0 pace, and is more of a "sustained" type, should that matter, especially if the pace is out of sorts for that track/distance/surface par? It might be safe to suggest that the faster they go against the par, the more it benefits horses that are late in the field, much like it benefited the 5.

best thing to do in my opinion is work many races yourself and let the results answer your questions. This way you are not relying on anything but yourself and what your results show.

If they show this method to not work applying it your way kick it to the curb.

If they show the method does work head to the bank and make deposits and thank The Hat. Not me. This is HIS matchup not Richie's.

froggy 07-04-2007 04:04 PM

Richie,

I love what you've explained and the way you did it.

My wife thinks I am nuts listening to the chants and working the races.

Thanks a million,

Froggy

azbacks 07-04-2007 05:25 PM

Richie,

Thanks for the run down on how you looked at this race. I learn so much from your posts, along with Match Up 2.

Pete

Jonathan Steele 07-04-2007 10:19 PM

Bravo, Richie!

I got a lot of work to do before this becomes second nature...that's okay, it'll be worth every second of it.

All the best,

Jon :D

gl45 07-05-2007 09:49 AM

Yesterday I received a phone call from a friend. He ask me to start to post again, (i wasn't posting much before anyway).
We discussed the above race, and my comment about the match up was:
Some people will not get the winner because they will use BLS rather than Positions. I might be wrong, but the few times that I analized races with Mr. Bradshaw, he kept mention positions and not beaten lengths vs. the POR that the horse run, and those comments kept me thinking. How could I give a numerical value to the horse's positions in order to select the right paceline for today race? After a few months and a couple of hundred races the light bulb went on.
The following Syn2 attachment shows early and sustain readings using positional analysis only, and not beaten lengths.
For those that are familiar with Syn2 will see #5 excell in both readings.
lbj

The Yank 07-05-2007 04:27 PM

Richie:

This analysis you presented appears to contradict an earlier principle of the Hat:

" We want to bet the horse that is closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race" - Jim Bradshaw


Which one is it then?

I'm honestly confused????:

RichieP 07-05-2007 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Yank (Post 21063)
Richie:

This analysis you presented appears to contradict an earlier principle of the Hat:

" We want to bet the horse that is closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race" - Jim Bradshaw


Which one is it then?

I'm honestly confused????:

In the opening post to this thread Yank I posted these 2 paragraphs:

"I am going to show you something that took the Hat months to get me to understand.

This is Hat's Voodoo. Some serious Voodoo at that."
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That is why THIS race type took MONTHS for me to have an understanding of. It is DIFFERENT.

Like a craftsman using certain tools for different jobs that is what IS required here.

Also why four MONTHS have passed leading to this "Hat Lesson" Yank.

I told Hat I WANTED to post it even though it might cause chaos for some initially. It is supposed to. This truly IS Voodoo man.

WAIT til Jim comes on tomorrow and lays out what he did. I asked him NOT to water anything down and give the "FULL TREATMENT".
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Keep an OPEN MIND

Richie

VoodooFan 07-05-2007 07:16 PM

Superior Work
 
Another Pulitzer Prize , Noble Peace Prize work, yet again Rich. The New Match Up Guy is truly the Son of the Hat. Dude's talkin 'bout altering brain wave patterns with Native American chants to " get in the zone". This is GOOD, GOOD voodoo , deep voodoo, folks. The de-mystification of a historical puzzle and enigma that STILL baffles us today is being unravelled before your eyes, people, thanks to the Doc, The Hat, and Richie P. Just about all Sartin programs are based in the principles of this post. Mathematicans, Computer Scientist and Engineers, Magicians, and EVEN countryfolk and cowboys who feed, wash, train and sleep with their horses mornin and night cannot now or in the future get as close to solving this paradox as it is laid out here: The truth about equine behavior as it relates to the racetrack; The Jim "The Hat" Bradshaw MatchUp. If Mr. Bradshaw was still creating programs, he could never improve or create a teaching/winning program more advanced with superior algorithms than The New Match Up Guy. The genius just keep evolving his game, and it takes us awhile to realize what he is doing. I, for one , am VERY, VERY appreciative of what the Collossal Twin Tandem crimefighters are doing here. Please don't let up on your new invention, Mr. Bradshaw, give'em all he can handle. Can't think of a better inheritor of the MatchUp than your new invention. Thanks Bill, for re-populating the once ghosttown known as the Sartin Methodology from legend and lore. Keep up the good work fellas. VoodooFan


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