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Houndog 05-01-2006 07:09 PM

Kentucky Derby undercard
 
I will be paying close attention to the Kentucky Derby undercard, as many solid overlay opportunities usually exist in several races. I don't know if it is the crowd, the competitive races, shippers, or a combination of these factors.

Other opinions on this are most welcome.

Dap Daddi 05-01-2006 07:32 PM

Houndog:

You are talking my kind of language. I had asked Richie to assit in firing up the troops in coming together with plays for the whole Churchill Day ndercard. Last year the rolling Pick 3's and Pick 4's were huge pay-outs. I would love to get my hands on some of that $$$$. I will do my part to post my hadndicapping selections for that day. I will be the first to admit I don't know that much about how Churchill plays as my area of expertise is strickly the west coast tracks. SO I am in with whatever I can do. Here's hoping others share with their knowledge!

Dap!

Houndog 05-01-2006 07:58 PM

Dap, I think your expertise would translate well in any track you decided to play.

Dap Daddi 05-01-2006 10:21 PM

Churchhil Undercard
 
Thank you for the compliment, we just gotts get the "Italian Stallion", Bill The Admin, and everybody else to bring it on! As we say in the hood "Can You Feel Me"

Dap!

Dap Daddi 05-03-2006 02:58 PM

DRF has now posted the entire undercard for Churchill Saturday. I understand the Trackmaster will have the PP's files ready for download this evening as well. Bill (admin), Richie, Russ (Kiltman),Tompkins(Dr.),Houndog, RxLawyer,Chris(Maiden), Shoeless, (Jeff), Turbulator, Ted (Mr. Craven) , and everyone else who I either do not know by name or handle but are members here IT IS TIME TO GET BUSY!! Lets put our heads together and come up with the winners for the undercard.

DAP!

Houndog 05-03-2006 03:28 PM

Dap, thanks for the heads up on Trackmaster. That gives everyone plenty of time to work this card. Hope all of us can take some of that Saturday money with us.

Houndog 05-04-2006 08:38 PM

Woodford Reserve Turf Classic 9th Race
 
With the exception of the Kentucky Derby I have not worked this card yet. Although these comments do not have anything to do with pace I just have some initial observations. We have a 4 year old filly named Gorella going against the guys. After researching this horse I see that it ran a good third to Artie Schiller and Leroidesanimaux in last years Breeder's Cup mile. Prior to that she ran a good second to Starcraft in the Prix du Moulin de Longchamp in France. Cacique was also in this race and finished 7th out of nine entrants.
This was a Group 1 race.The comments were she finished fast and she does her best work late on. Will have to see her past performances to see what she has been doing lately.

Dap Daddi 05-04-2006 09:29 PM

BEWARE I bet this horse in the Breeders Cup when she again ran against the boys. She is for real!

Houndog 05-04-2006 09:51 PM

Humana Distaff Churchill Downs 8th
 
Dap, looks like a few California based horses entered here. A.C. Avila shipping in from California. Since you are familiar with the California circuit any comments on any of the horses would be most welcome.

Dap Daddi 05-04-2006 10:37 PM

Brother Dog:

Bobby Frankel's horse Cacique looks tough!. He did run in a race back of the 4th of September at Longchamp France (Equivelent to Saratoga) and lost to the filly Gorella. Frankel is dangerous anywhere he and P. Val show up. Keep this one in your radar. Tranier James Cassidy's go to guy when he has a live mount is Kent Desourmeaux. I would pair my bets or plays in this race to Carique and Gorella!

Dap Daddi 05-04-2006 10:40 PM

Churchill 7th Race
 
Team: Can a few folks take a look at the 7th at Churchill for Saturday and put their comments / handicapped selections up for review. This race looks pretty tough. I know Shoeless is good at these Turf races. This one has upset spelled all over it in my ipinion. It appears there could be a lot of early speed. Would appreciate readng what others think about this particular race.

Dap!

shoeless 05-05-2006 04:34 PM

Dap,I wont be much help here as it looks like Wend overmatches this field.She is the only Grade 2 stakes winner here on the turf and now she is running in Grade 3.Prado fits her like a glove and last time out came home in 29 sec,very tough to beat here.Jeff

Rverge 05-05-2006 05:49 PM

race 7
 
hello
came up with
3
1
2
8
4
yes 2 will be tough. plus a mott horse
john

Dap Daddi 05-05-2006 08:34 PM

Hand Calcualtions
 
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First let me say that I hope that my enthusiasm towards one horse in particular has not thrown anyone else off their particular selection. I have made freinds here and I hope after tomorrow win or lose with my selections to win the Kentucky Derby, I still have my friends i made here. Below is my hand calculations of the Derby Cointenders as I see them and pretenders listed below with my reason for calling them pretenders:

Dap Daddi 05-05-2006 08:36 PM

Derby Undercard Conteders with Hand Calculations
 
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Here are my preliminary contenders for undercard: Race 1 omitted too tough to handicap:

Dap Daddi 05-05-2006 08:37 PM

Derby Undercard Conteders with Hand Calculations
 
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Dap Daddi 05-05-2006 08:38 PM

Final Set:
 
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Last Two races:

Dap Daddi 05-05-2006 08:40 PM

Feel free to ask me any questions. From this point I will input my contenders list into Speculator and let my hanidicapping and Spec be my guides!

Sincerely,

Dap

PS: I do not want be accused of REDBOARDING by Richie

Houndog 05-05-2006 10:48 PM

Race 2 Screen 1
 
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Screen 1 race 2 in Speculator

Houndog 05-05-2006 10:49 PM

Race 2 Screen 2
 
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This is screen 2 speculator

Houndog 05-05-2006 11:12 PM

Race 3
 
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Race 3 screen 1

Houndog 05-05-2006 11:13 PM

Race 3
 
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Race 3 Screen 2

Houndog 05-06-2006 12:44 AM

CD Race 4
 
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Race 4 BL screen

Houndog 05-06-2006 12:45 AM

CD 4 screen 2
 
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Speculator Screen

Houndog 05-06-2006 12:47 AM

CD Race 5
 
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BL Screen Race 5

Houndog 05-06-2006 12:48 AM

CD 5 Screen 2
 
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Second Screen race 5

Houndog 05-06-2006 12:50 AM

CD Race #7
 
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First Screen

Houndog 05-06-2006 12:51 AM

CD 7 Screen 2
 
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CD 7 screen 2

Houndog 05-06-2006 12:52 AM

CD7 Screen 3
 
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Anothe Screen Here

Houndog 05-06-2006 12:53 AM

CD Race 8
 
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Race 8 Screen 1

Houndog 05-06-2006 12:54 AM

CD 8 screen 2
 
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Houndog 05-06-2006 12:55 AM

CD 8 Screen 3
 
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The Mug Screen 3

Houndog 05-06-2006 12:56 AM

CD Race 9
 
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Houndog 05-06-2006 12:58 AM

CD Race 9
 
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Houndog 05-06-2006 12:59 AM

CD Race 9
 
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Third Screen

Houndog 05-06-2006 01:01 AM

CD 9 Final Screen
 
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Final Screen

RichieP 05-06-2006 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dap Daddi
PS: I do not want be accused of REDBOARDING by Richie


On the advice of counsel I respectfully refuse comment on this on the grounds that my answer will DEFINITELY tend to incriminate me.

"There are 2 kinds of trial lawyers in this country. Everyone else and ME." - Roy Cohen - 1982

Dap Daddi 05-06-2006 09:56 AM

My Churchill Race 5 Readouts
 
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Race Five looks a little sppoky to me. Here are my readouts

Dap Daddi 05-06-2006 09:57 AM

Race 5 Cont:.
 
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Race 5. Cont:

Dap Daddi 05-06-2006 10:00 AM

Whats concerns me in this race is the fact that there is a lot of early E/LP and whe nyou look at the L/LP the picture changes. I take this to mean who can still have enough in te tank downthat long stretch.

Bucharest and Tricky Trever have better numbers in this column. Any comments?

Dap


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