Tampa Tuesday "Live" - Round 3
 

keeping with the same theme of doing the first non-maiden race on the card. Today that is the first race so we will work that one.

Gonna show the pp's for the horses. The will pick some power lines and see what shakes out when the race runs.

I encourage ALL other "Beta testers" to post up here doing the race THEIR way.

Richie

horse 1

horse 2

horse 3

horse 4

horse 5

horse 6

horse 7

horse 8 to complete the field

Today's Tandems
 

Tandem Races for today's race

Interactive Participation WELCOME
 

Now anyone looking in on the race can see the whole pp's for each horse right?

so I am gonna select MY powerlines or the lines that make the horse FAST.

YOU can throw horses/lines out based on YOUR style of capping.

If YOU have an idea of lines that YOU would select and would like to see the readouts with them before the race runs simply post up your contenders and lines HERE before 11 tomorrow morning and I will enter them and "show" you what the software looks like customized to YOUR look at the race ok?

Least I can do for people who have been very good to me man. It's called giving back when you can :)

so FEEL FREE to post up and I will take the screen shots and post em for you to see BEFORE the race runs

Richie

MY "Look"
 

Here is MY "look" at the Power Lines for the horses.

When 2 lines are shown most times its becuase I might try to visualize combining the lines into a kind of "virtual line". Other times its for other reasons better left for another time.

Here is MY look at the race and the ONLY screen I consider

RAW DATA

Adjusted data
 

Ok the next 3 screens are ADJUSTED data

Here is the Tpr screen showing the differential ala "Pace makes the Race"

Adjusted Data
 

Here is the Perceptor screen showing Primary factors

Adjusted Data
 

Finally the "work in progress" BL/BL screen that shows well pretty much EVERYTHING :)

Let's see what the race will bring come tomorrow ok? I should be around to update the screens after scratches are announced

Richie

Bump

Paceline eliminations
 

revised screen shots after paceline eliminations

RAW

Adjusted

Adjusted Perceptor

Adjusted Bl/Bl

I'm surprise you don't have #2 in the mix.
Pino

Tam 1
 

hello richie and pino
been playing with all in one v6 and come up with the same numbers. when using line one for the 2 horse, doesn't contend. turf race at tam. using line 2 @ TP(route)comes up on top as a contender. have done this race also using 160. same results. will post trainer stats for horse 2.
Rverge

tam
 

trainer stats for the 2. i noticed the owner is the trainer.

Pino,

I can't even consider this horse paisan based on his first call times. He can win but for me the first horse thrown out

Pino,

your question is also WHY I have asked repeatedly the testers to come and show THEIR way of doing a race paisan. Follow?

There definitely is NOT just one way to look at a race.

I have even offered to have folks look at the horse's pp's and tell me what THEY would do and I will input it for them and show the screenshots.

off to the market for some crusty bread amigo. Doris says "Hi Pino how are you?"

Richie

Riccardo,
I'm not a RDSS tester, I'm still fooling arounnd with Freddie concept somewhat. The reason I did question #2 is: his 2rb and 3rb 2nd. call positions seems to indicate some readiness. Considering his last race on the turf (stamina) was only 5.5 lengths from the leaders. Just an observation.
Pino

scratches
 

The #7 is scratched. here is revised

RAW

Revised Adjusted
 

Tpr

Revised Adjusted
 

Perceptor

Revised Adjusted
 

Bl/Bl

Pino, John,

Observation so far shows that TP (and KEE) Polytrack shipper lines seem to compare way too fast. If you slow those 2 TP routes down by 3 seconds or so at the final, the #2 doesn't look quite so fast. Spec users can do this on the Manual edit screen. (Workin' on that in RDSS...) Instead, if you use her BEU route lines, where she at least ran well, her energy is a lot less

Maybe this router will win another sprint race today, but... (though has been in the money 6 times in 10 sprints). Her late energy could get her up for Show again.

Ted

I'm supposed to be working on an important project, but these horses 'keep pulling me back'. (Someone tell me to just stop reading my email...).

For this race, I selected a paceline or lines for every horse. I did NOT use a match up/power line procedure for this particular race. I tried to use the best of last 3 similar, etc.

I included #2 the router, but could not accept the TP lines as they adjust too fast for me. Instead I used an older BEU line where it ran well. I notice it has good late energy and has actually finished 5 times 3rd in sprints. Not for WIN, but the counter-energy horse, along with the #1.

I also included the #5 who ran poorly after its layoff, but if it runs back to previous, can compete, but not for WIN.

I used different pacelines than Richie, using this contender analysis method, but got the same 3 horses for WIN. My final BL/BL screen shot below shows those 3 WIN horses.

No prediction, just analysis today.

Result
 

a 1-2-3 finish with the winner being the horse CLOSEST to the lead positionally on the Power Lines. ALSO has 2 calls of extra units of energy due to the "heading " at 1c and 2c. Check it out.


Now you can also place this horse Pace of race faster by looking at his pp's


til next week:)

Richie, I can see how the winner's #5 line places it positionally closer than its chosen power line(on the lead), and I presume you mean this is evidence that of the 3 final contenders, it should prevail.

Did you use the #1 line 6 (over lines 5 or 7 where it was 1st at C1) because line 6 C1 and C2 pace was much faster, and thus this line 6 made it look its fastest? But why not try the line 5 or 7 to put it positionally closer to the lead (i.e. on the lead)?

Trying to understand about the final hair-splitting over contenders by seeing if we can place a horse closer positionally.

Also, the winner line 4 clearly shows it a 'fighter' and I see how it can be credited with 2 units of extra energy for that fight. If it had finished worse in that line 4 as a result of that fight, would you still say it should be credited with extra units of energy?


Ted

YES.

A mental picture "blending" the pacelines. Pace of race line 3( don't wanna use it for power line cause he was chasing speed) and 5 "blended" with 'FIGHTING" and finish of line 4

This race HAS run before (btw so did last week's. just the wrong horse(for me) won).

LIne 7 is a "stop on it's own line. I would not consider that for a Powerline but WOULD call on it to seperate final 1 or 2 contenders Ted if pace of race SPEED was needed.

Again a lot of this is subjective and reflects my interpretations of how I am taught to "see" things using BOTH power lines and then "other" lines to support wager decisions.
Richie

absolutely YES and giving 2 units is CONSERVATIVE estimate.
Richie

late
 

Sorry I'm late I will work the race even though I know the results
Its alright since I will show the race the way I would have done it
I set the pace and did my APV-CR ratings
I will pick lines based on my pace and the best of the last 3
speed ratings

APV CR

1). 171.2% 1.45
2). 133.5 % 1.18
3). 177.8% 1.54
4). 028.4% 0.30
5). 124.9% 1.41
6). 187.3% 1.82
8).150.6% 1.33

Everybody looks cool except # 4 and maybe # 2

Here are my screen shots first horse 1
I will use line 1 (not marked Opps)

Horse 2
 

All Rt lines showing
If you notice # 2 has no color in the fractions
so based on my projected pace it will be to far back
the Speed Rating +TV seem slow
compaired to horses 5 and 6
Also realitive to this field
with such a low purse # 2's CR is low so I will not help it
and try line 6 from Beu
No Line

horse 3
 

Lots of color in the fractions
I used line 1 7 days ago from Tam.
The sy line from cby with a +24 worries me