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RichieP 02-09-2007 06:10 PM

Jim Bradshaw's Matchup - 8 Month Update
 
I have been learning and working the matchup for the past 8 months.

What follows are 6 KEY areas of learning and understanding that have come to form the core of my applying the techniques on a daily basis.

Some you will recognize from posts while others are well outside the 5 step approach. This is how I have been taught from day 1.


The 6 KEY areas of Jim Bradshaw's Matchup:

1) INTUITION - Allowing the inner voice to be heard as well as Pattern Recognition. Without this there is NO matchup at least Jim's matchup. Take this to the bank man.

2) POSITIONING - Including the virtual NON importance of Beaten Lenghts in The Hat's Matchup.

3) EARLY or OTHER THAN EARLY - Simplifying the matchup regarding running styles PLUS easing confusion regarding WHOM to bet.

4) FIGHTERS - a POWERFUL weapon for the Hat and something which has been taught to me over and over since day ONE.

5) SPOT PLAYS - combining pattern recognition with multi trackiing to maximize PROFITS

6) VOODOO - Jim's LEGENDARY reputation of leaving the best of the best in awe at what he does. Is it possible to learn a BIT of what he does and then APPLY it for ourselves to races and get the "impossible horse"sometime?
YES however to seriously try and apply this a totally OPEN mind is needed. A mind where ALL rules and mainstream stuff is thrown to the curb.

I am going to take EACH of the 6 areas listed beginning Monday and post extensively about them INDIVIDUALLY so as not to rush through and forget ****.

Thank you to the Hat for giving me the ok to post FREELY about what I want to here.

So until Monday stay cool :)
Richie Pizzicara

shoeless 02-09-2007 07:17 PM

Richie,I will be looking forward to it.Jeff

tom 02-09-2007 08:08 PM

Me too.:D

noddub62 02-09-2007 09:34 PM

Richie,

Looking forward to your tutoring as well. I am reading & rereading Mr. B.'s book and I can see improvement in my bottom line. Speaking for myself, you guys that post regularly and instruct are much appreciated.

Thanks a lot,
Bud

dugoutgold 02-09-2007 09:51 PM

Great post Rich, Im very interested in the virtual non importance of the beaten lengths, If I can get that part down Ill make some real progress.
Looking forward again to future posts.

emilio840 02-10-2007 02:29 AM

Thats great Richie. The minutes are going very slow, make Monday come faster.

I notice everytime I reread the book, I see something that wasn't there before.

emilio

lwconner 02-10-2007 06:54 AM

I'll be glad to learn more on this subject(s). I just joined yesterday. Many thanks to Jim Bradshaw for directing me here. This seems to be just what the Dr. ordered. Thanks to all who posts here and shares their knowledge and expertise.

Sincerely,

LWConner

shoeless 02-10-2007 07:24 AM

I have to give a BIG THANKS to Richie for getting me off computer programs and back to just using the racing form.I was fooling myself thinking I could learn how to use a program when in reality I can interperate the data in the racing form alone much better.In my 20 race cycle I just finished using lone early only my horse has been no worse than 2nd 18 of those times.I did make a big mistake yesterday in the 9th at CT with a lone early coming from Woodbine that paid 38.00.I wasnt sure how to adjust the times because it's a faster track so I didnt play the race.It cost me but I learned a lesson and wont worry about that anymore and if I have a lone early just play it no matter what.Thanks as well to Hat who is teaching this to Richie and enabling him to pass it on to us.As long as Im thanking people I cant leave out Bill because if it wasnt for him there would be no forum to do this on.Sorry for the long winded post.Shoeless

RichieP 02-10-2007 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lwconner (Post 15346)
I'll be glad to learn more on this subject(s). I just joined yesterday. Many thanks to Jim Bradshaw for directing me here. This seems to be just what the Dr. ordered. Thanks to all who posts here and shares their knowledge and expertise.

Sincerely,

LWConner

Welcome to Bill's board Lw.

I think you will like it here. The Hat told me about you. Says you are very cool!

Again welcome to Pace & Cap.

Richie:)

RichieP 02-11-2007 10:56 AM

1st Key - INTUITION
 
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Originally Posted by RichieP (Post 15334)
1) INTUITION - Allowing the inner voice to be heard as well as Pattern Recognition. Without this
there is NO matchup at least Jim's matchup. Take this to the bank man.

Intuition:
1) The act or faculty of knowing without the use of rational processes.Immediate cognition.

2) A capacity for guessing accurately.Sharp insight.

Webster's Dictionary
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Why start here? How do I KNOW this is the most important part of Jim's matchup?

Because ignoring this aspect led to the ONE and only time I QUIT the matchup and swore off it. This after I had been working it for 3 months.

Yup if I am gonna write it has to be the truth. Only Bill and Jim knew what I just wrote to be true.

It was September and I had lost 3 races in a row. For some reason I looked back on those 3 races AFTER they had run and found a way to make the winner come up strong. This after being told by Jim NOT to do this because I would wind up all messed up. I didn't care. I HAD to get that winner to come up and figured once I did everything going forward would take care of itself.

Boy was I WRONG. The following day I matched 3 races and found myself taking all this extra time looking for this and looking for that. Same thing I had done on the completed races the day before BUT this race hadn't run yet. Bottom line I lost ALL 3 races. So I go back and once again make the winner come up AFTER the race runs.

Long story short this goes on for 15 races over 4-5 days and I lose them ALL. I stopped talking with Jim and stopped talking with Bill. Just wouldn't answer the phone. So that Saturday Bill shows up at my door unannounced and we go out and talk.

He then tells me to call Jim. I do and he says "what the hell is wrong Rich". I told him I lost a ton of races in a row and he says he KNOWS what I am doing. He tells me "Rich you started looking back at the races you lost AFTER it ran didn't you?" I said YES.

He told me "you can NOT look back after the fact because your ability to make the right choice on a LIVE race will be destroyed by all the SECOND GUESSING you did after the fact. See that stuff is gonna be in your head when looking live and you can NOT win". So we spent the next week working hard on races and focusing ONLY on the race at hand. Goodbye long losing streak.
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Jim stresses over and over that intuition is recognizing patterns that keep repeating. He tells me in order to hear that "little voice" inside an environment that is QUIET and RELAXED is needed. He tells me that EVERY time he goes to play the races he sits alone for a couple of minutes and just closes his eyes and "gets quiet" with himself. He calls it getting in the zone.

2 months ago I was talking with him when all of a sudden he tells me "Rich don't go crazy after I tell you this ok? I do NOT pay attention to tandems. I do NOT project a pace. When I am "ON" I open the form and there is the winner of the race. Try it sometime and see".

I asked him if he was messing with me again and he said "NO I am serious. The race has run already even though it hasn't. Now just find the horse that has already won". I hear LeRoi in the backround telling me "he's doing that weird stuff again Richie!"

I heard what he said that day but honestly did NOT understand what he was telling me. I DO now. It's PATTERN RECOGNITION at a very high level.

When we look at a race it is something that HAS run before. Many many times as a matter of fact. Things change such as
names
tracks
distances
surfaces
but the CORE of the race is the same.

What we CAN do as beginning "matchers" is to be aware of one or two certain types of races that we HAVE seen run and KNOW who the winner "looks like" in the pp's BEFORE the race runs. We can FOCUS on finding these type races to wager on.

This is where Jim's SPOT PLAYS become a SERIOUS weapon for us to use if we have PATIENCE and DISCIPLINE to wait on them.

He tells me "Rich focus on the races that you RECOGNIZE. As you gain more experience with the matchup you will be able to recognize more races to bet on. Take things one step at a time and realize you are doing this for 8 months while I am at it for over 20 YEARS."

Regarding patterns I am also seeing that there are patterns of races that tell me I have NO business looking at the race cause I will NOT win it based on what I have seen BEFORE. NEGATIVE patterns if you will. Jim says these are also extremely important and when that feeling comes to run as fast as I can AWAY from the race.

Ok this screenshot shows what MY favorite type of EARLY looks like at the FIRST call (first fraction in routes). I have seen this PATTERN over and over and over in successful "Spot play early" races.

" Intuition is pattern recognition. Relax and open your mind to recognize certain races that have run before. Then go to the pp's and find the horse that has already won based on what has happened BEFORE" - The Hat

I will end here with a screenshot that shows one small thing BUT is something that has shown itself to be VERY powerful with early runners. This is the WINNING "picture" for me for an EARLY horse at the FIRST call.

Richie
Intuition - A capacity for guessing accurately.Sharp insight.

VoodooFan 02-11-2007 06:29 PM

Wow
 
  1. WOW, and WOW again, dude. Just when I thought you leveled off,.....BAM!, you pull this one out of your hat, or Mr. Bradshaws hat. When you listed #1 , I thought how would he get this across, seeing as how Doc would pepper his presentations trying to get this across, i.e., Psychology of Winning, Biofeedback, snapping a rubber band on your wrist, you call the race, neurolingquistics,etc,.

    If Doc is reading your post, if he still smokes his pipe, he's gotta be puffin on it with a sly smirk and grin saying, "finally, THIS is what I been tryin to get people to see; It finally stuck to somebody".
    Your teaching skills and illustrations are gettin to be beyond ordinary, seriously.
    That "screenshot"was just perfect, incredible, to illustrate your point, just perfect.
    What more can be said, just Great work..., good stuff,...... holy cow......., I'm speechless ...."................",.. VoodooFan
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socantra 02-11-2007 06:57 PM

I'll have to second 'Voodoo Fan's comments. That really is an outstanding job of conveying a concept that is hard to get across. As always, your teaching skills are superb. Please, keep up the great work.

Dick...

Bob Cochran 02-11-2007 07:15 PM

Intuition
 
This is an excellent start Rich.
Great post.

20towin 02-11-2007 08:59 PM

I agree with everything you posted, that being said is a tough thing to do. Looking over past races is a bad habit and will be tough to break. Been doing it for 20 years. Is there a support group for this.

shoeless 02-11-2007 10:19 PM

Richie,Good Post but I couldnt get the screenshot to open.Jeff

Jonathan Steele 02-12-2007 05:43 AM

Shoeless said:

"I couldnt get the screenshot to open"

Me neither.

Jon :(

gl45 02-12-2007 07:33 AM

That's the screnn shot.
1st. call "the horse is FIRST by hd"

Bob Cochran 02-12-2007 09:10 AM

looking back at a loss
 
I can't count the times at the race track or OTB facility, where a player has
missed a race, looked back, and sure enough, finds a reason why the winner
could or should have been played. I have seen racing forms ripped up, chairs thrown, friends shouting and cursing each other, you name it.

And guess what ? they kicked themselves so badly, they were done for the
day, because they couldn't make the correct decision from that race on.

Some went home raging mad, only to find they had good winners in the later races which would have turned a profit for the day.

Losing is a part of the business. Learn the business correctly and you will have fewer losses. IMHO

RichieP 02-12-2007 09:41 AM

2nd Key - Positioning/ Beaten Lenghts
 
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POSITION - A place or location. The right or appropriate place. - Webster's

" The 2 biggest reasons why folks can't learn the matchup are
1) Making RULES for everything
2) Getting hung up on a horse's BEATEN LENGHTS.
I know this to be true because I have been teaching the Matchup for 20 + years" - Jim Bradshaw
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Now it is time to begin to see things in a horse's past performances the way the Hat does.

While we can not be the Hat and see ALL he "sees" in a race we can use these techniques to become STRONGER matchers. Please watch and remember there are NO rules.
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Beaten Lenghts:
I want to lay out the few areas where beaten lenghts ARE important to the Hat and CAN and SHOULD be used to evaluate both a horse and a potential SPOT PLAY situation.

My original post said that the 6 things listed all come together and work together to become ONE application. Well here it is.

1) When evaluating an EARLY horse (one which we project is going to go wire to wire and can NOT pass horse's if he doesn't get the lead) LOOK at the beaten lenghts at the FIRST CALL of his WINNING wire jobs and see if he can get that same lead today based on the early matchup. Use the FIRST CALL and compare him with the other earlies ( also HERE bring in the position 2- hd and 2-nk guys because they WANT the lead too. If the horse can NOT get the lead he had in his winninng line throw the horse out immediately.

2) When a horse loses BOTH position and beaten lenghts between the 1st and 2nd calls this is a strong indication THAT pace is one he can NOT handle. If he GAINS position or beaten lenghts from 1c to 2c use this as a positive indicator that he can handle the pace.

3) When you FIRST open a race scroll the horses and find the fastest PACE OF RACE from the LAST RACE. Look at the horse(s) and check the position and beaten lenghts at 1c AND 2c. If the horse maintains position and/or beaten lenghts (NOT talking about pos 8-8 for ex, some looking at races like this will show YOU what is ok) this is a TRIGGER to open the horse's WHOLE pp's up and evaluate him off BEST line (s).

You can make a personal SPOT PLAY from this type horse WHEN he FITS the race shape you are projecting to win today (early or other than early).

This fastest pace from the last race also opens the door to do some VOODOO by taking that pace of race and then using other lines POSITIONING to create a virtual line that NOBODY at the track can "see". This is the way the Hat introduced me to his Voodoo for the first time a few months back and it blew my mind man. We will do a full race on this when we get to that part.
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POSITIONING:

" We want to bet the horse that is closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race" - Jim Bradshaw

To be HONEST this is very simple and it is the way the Hat decides his horse to bet in EVERY race. It might sound complicated and you think " well what if this appears or what about this factor".

Relax. Open your mind to new things. WATCH

They say a picture is worth a thousand words right?

We want to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race

the #2 is the winner $ 9.40

RichieP 02-12-2007 09:45 AM

2nd Key - Positioning
 
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We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race


the #2 is the winner $ 9.00

RichieP 02-12-2007 09:47 AM

2nd Key - Positioning
 
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We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race

the winner is #5 - $23.60

RichieP 02-12-2007 09:49 AM

2nd Key - Positioning
 
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We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race


the winner is the #2 - $9.60

RichieP 02-12-2007 09:52 AM

2nd Key - Positioning
 
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We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race

The winner is the #6 - $ 5.20

RichieP 02-12-2007 09:55 AM

2nd Key - Positioning
 
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We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race

the winner is the #5 - $12.40

RichieP 02-12-2007 09:59 AM

2nd Key - Positioning
 
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We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race

winner is the #6 - $6.20

RichieP 02-12-2007 10:09 AM

2nd Key - Positioning
 
I spent a LOT of writing on the beaten lenghts because I wanted to make sure I covered the only real areas where they come into play in Jim Bradshaw's matchup.

The POSITIONING part is what is messing a lot of folks up and to be HONEST it did to ME also at the start.

What Jim did with me was basically what I have just done. Produce a SERIES of races rapid fire where the picture when LOOKED AT CLOSELY tells the whole story ok?

POSITIONING is actually very SIMPLE. Just

1) RELAX
2) LOOK at what the pictures show
3) RELAX
4) LOOK at what the pictures show

THERE it is man.

Jim Bradshaw's POSITIONING

Richie
POSITION - A place or location. The right or appropriate place.

RichieP 02-12-2007 10:52 AM

Shoeless and Jon
 
that screenshot from the 1st key was a picture of a horse's position and beaten lenghts at the FIRST call

1-hd

Richie

Bill Lyster 02-12-2007 12:25 PM

Richie:

With respect to the Delta Downs race 7 on 2-07, are you saying that the race is over at the first call because the presser Rufus, 2nd, 1.5L off a 48, is so far ahead of Stratford on Avon, 2nd 1L off a 49.8, EVEN THOUGH the final time adjusts to TWO seconds faster (141.6 vs 143.6 for Rufus)? That is a big WOW. I worked this race last week and I was content in a two horse betting situation to get it down to both of these pressers, but my first impression was that the 2 sec better time made Stratford on Avon a better play.

Nice lesson. ALL RICHIE, ALL THE TIME!

tHANKS,

Bill

Bill Lyster 02-12-2007 02:47 PM

Delta 02-07, 7th
 
Richie:

I worked the 7th after you posted the PPs. I came down to the 2 contenders you show but thought Stratford the better of the two if I had to pick just one. Of course I am still a two horse bettor, so the prize would have been mine.

So what I gather from today's post is that the Delta 7th race was really OVER at the FIRST call. Rufus, a presser was 1.5L off a 48 1st call and Stratford, another presser was 1L off a 49.8 1st call in an 8.5f race where the projected mile time was 141.40, compared to Rufus' final time of 143.20. That is a really big WOW that puts an entirely new light on long held "facts"

Thanks for the insight.

Bill

RichieP 02-12-2007 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lyster (Post 15483)
Richie:
So what I gather from today's post is that the Delta 7th race was really OVER at the FIRST call. Rufus, a presser was 1.5L off a 48 1st call and Stratford, another presser was 1L off a 49.8 1st call in an 8.5f race where the projected mile time was 141.40, compared to Rufus' final time of 143.20. That is a really big WOW that puts an entirely new light on long held "facts"

Thanks for the insight.

Bill

You are getting it amigo. I believe the word final time has NOT been used at ALL in anything we have said or done yet. ;)

Now take it a step further and "back up" your positional/pace of race assesment to INCLUDE the FIRST FRACTION (somethiing which fwiw NOBODY does in ROUTES Bill) ok? NOW how do things look to YOU?

"We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race" - The Hat

Shedding new light on long held "facts" - Jim Bradshaw's Matchup

Richie

shoeless 02-12-2007 07:43 PM

Richie,GREAT JOB you could write a book yourself.Jeff

VoodooFan 02-12-2007 10:59 PM

The Holy Grail/hat Trick
 
It took me my 9th or 10th reading of the MatchUp 2 book to realize what Richie has posted on 2nd Key-Positioning/Beaten lengths; the Pace of Race, last line, the fastest, at todays distance, and todays track, TODAY, if possible. A good call to spend so much time on this subject(BEATEN LENGTHS AND POSITIONS); sometimes, a subject of extreme frustration trying to master the MatchUp.
  1. Jim "The Hat" Bradshaw .......extraordinary. The MatchUp 2 book IS the Sartin Methodology in essence, in my opinion. If you combined The Yellow manual, The Pink Technical manual, The Tandem manual, The Psychology of Winning, The Chaos manaul, and all the concepts behind the computer software and put them together, it would be The MatchUp 2 book, in my opinion.
  2. The MatchUp 2, springloaded and superconcentrated.......packed with examples. For such a small book, it carries a LOT of weight. Studying it feels like I am doin research for a thesis at Harvard. Studying it so hard, for a light book, my neck hurts, like it weighs as much as a thick law book or physicians desk reference manual. Your 1st 10 reads is ONLY the first round. With the many examples, along with Richie's past and recent post, we get to tune our mind to The Hat's "mental algorithms".
  3. Have to be careful. Sometimes, I have to wash my hands 'fore I read the manual, cause I don't want to wear out the pages with my one and only copy of the book, best book on handicapping horses,maybe ever, you will find. Either that or get the entire book laminated.
  4. From the First issue of the Follow Up, to the last Pirco publication, my opinion, and probably the opinion of most, the best teacher , the clearest and most clarity is Tom Brohamer, and maybe Doc, 2nd by a head; but Doc is a virtuoso; class by himself. He could talk sire and class with the best of 'em, or get down and dirty like The Hat. He could play all the instruments and all the styles. ...........but that opinion is now changed, PERMANTELY. RichieP's only on the 2nd Key, and my opinion, to me, is assured. If you took the clarity of Tom Brohamer+ the virtuosity of Doc Sartin+ the Genius of the Hat= RichieP. To explain the MatchUp, which IS the Sartin Methodology like THIS, boy o boy, what can you say. When you find somebody that can explain esoteric, advanced concepts to a 4 year old, THAT is a talent that is the top of talents in the world. Can you imagine what the world would be like if every teacher in any discipline can explain things like this? Where would you be, who would you be today? Check out a copy of Stikky Charts, explaining the stock market and predictions to kids, but not written exclusively for kids,great book.
  1. Somebody just GOTS to show Doc these recent post by RichieP. The Hat's gotta be giddy with pride. The Hat and Doc should be preparing adoption papers for their proud Pirco son, RichieP.
  2. Sartin members used to jab at Doc Sartin pepperin psychology in his presentations; members saying,"ok Doc, cut the psychology crap and show us which horse is goin to win the race". With Richies recent post, sounds like Mr. Bradshaw talkin like the Doc......definate kindred spirits and soul brothers, Doc and The Hat.
    1. Obi-Wan Kenobi : "....trust your feelings, Luke".
    2. Dr. Howard G. Sartin : ".....release the child within, let him free....".
    3. Jim "The Hat" Bradshaw : "...relax and open your mind".....
    4. Richie P : "....relax, look at what the picture shows.."
  1. From these recent post , I'm truley wondering if Mr. Bradshaw was born in Oklahoma, or was born near AREA 51 .
  1. I find myself goin back and forth between the "Blue" matchup book and the MatchUp 2....they seem on some parts to compliment each other. The "Blue" MatchUp manual, with the now publication of the MatchUp 2, seems to be an Advanced MatchUp manual, with some "Voodoo" like adjustments and procedures. With Richie's recent post, the term "Hat Trick", has solid scientific explanation to it. If Doc Sartin were to explain it, "voodoo" would not come up; see'in as how Doc would have a 10-20 page explanation on each concept. He would have the horse's entire past performance in the computer, to show that in the horses good races, bad races, and good within bad races, there is a consistant pattern in either internal fractions, rate of deceleration, etc. In other words, Doc would show that at least two lines or more picked could make the horse the winner. He did "exactly" that in The PaceLine manual; in the Stock 'n Trade horse, their was no usable line, but since Doc wrote and detailed the reason in 2-5 pages, no one accused Doc Sartin of "voodooing" a line or several lines to make the horse the winner.
  1. How do you catagorize what the Hat told Richie? Meditation, Mental Time Travel, Out of Body, Native American religion, Vulcan mind trick,Spiritual Jedi-Priest , TeleKinesis, Altered Mind States.....I mean, be honest Richie, when the Hat sits you down to explain advanced concepts and practices, does he sit you down in front of him, takes off his Stetson, and with one or both hands and fingertips puts them on accupressure points on your face and skull, and tells you to "relax, my thoughts , your thoughts, my mind , your mind"........if Mr. Bradshaw starts handing out Light-Sabers with Indian Totems engraved in them, or Richie comes back and tell us while The Hat was meditating, you seen him Levitate 1/2 " off the floor in a sweat lodge, all I can say is.........."........" VoodooFan:)
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Turbulator 02-12-2007 11:13 PM

"We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race" - The Hat

You lost me, Richie. I only got one of the examples right.

"factoring in pace of race." What exactly do you mean by this?

Turbulator 02-13-2007 12:41 AM

I think I've got it now.

emilio840 02-13-2007 04:22 AM

Hi Richie!!

Can you explain what you mean by factoring in pace of race."

Do you mean to look at all the horses last race and pick the fastest pace (if possible close to today's distant.) And than pick a horse that will run close to that pace. And don't look at the lengths that the horse is behine the leader.

I am confused. Do we look at the first 2 calls to find this horse that is close to the pace.

RichieP 02-13-2007 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by emilio840 (Post 15500)
Hi Richie!!

Can you explain what you mean by factoring in pace of race."

Do you mean to look at all the horses last race and pick the fastest pace (if possible close to today's distant.) And than pick a horse that will run close to that pace. And don't look at the lengths that the horse is behine the leader.

I am confused. Do we look at the first 2 calls to find this horse that is close to the pace.

Hi Emilio,

ok this part of what I wrote:

3) When you FIRST open a race scroll the horses and find the fastest PACE OF RACE from the LAST RACE. Look at the horse(s) and check the position and beaten lenghts at 1c AND 2c. If the horse maintains position and/or beaten lenghts (NOT talking about pos 8-8 for ex, some looking at races like this will show YOU what is ok) this is a TRIGGER to open the horse's WHOLE pp's up and evaluate him off BEST line (s).

You can make a personal SPOT PLAY from this type horse WHEN he FITS the race shape you are projecting to win today (early or other than early).
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has NOTHING to do with the 7 screenshots shown amigo.

The "fastest pace from last race" is something Jim taught me to do in EVERY race I open up to work. This is kind of a primer to start seeing things about the race that might reveal a horse who is extremely dangerous from what he shows in his LAST RACE.

1) Battling for the lead from 1c-2c
2) making a QUICK positional move from 1c-2c
etc etc.

Note that the last thing written about this is the "possibility to make a personal SPOT PLAY from this type of horse WHEN it fits today's winning race shape early or other than early"

Emilio we do this FIRST when looking at a race. Then if the horse shows NOTHING against the pace we MOVE ON with the working of the race matching etc etc.

If he DOES show positive signs from the race we then have to see if he FITS the race shape thats gonna win today
a) Early - projecting a wire to wire win
b) Other than early - ALL other races

For example:
Our horse battled gamely from 1c-2c against the fastest pace from last race before collapsing. ok so we open his pp's up and grab his fastest line( Power line) to evaluate against the others today.

BUT in todays race there are 2 or 3 other PURE EARLY runners and our guy is the SAME. If he can NOT pass horses he is identified as EARLY style and with the other earlies in the race (assuming their 1st fractions are at least as fast as our guy) TODAY'S winner is gonna be Other than early. Our horse does NOT fit this shape ok?

That's why I described this "look" at the fastest pace from last race" as a good thing to create a SPOT PLAY type deal from. It's only gonna help us in SOME races BUT we have to do the mental work and look at EVERY race to find the ones where it WILL tell us something.
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All this has NOTHING to do with the screen shots shown. The screenshots are simply the horse's POWER LINES or lines that make then FAST. Thats what we match from and bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race.

I hope this clear things up a bit

Richie

RichieP 02-13-2007 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbulator (Post 15498)
I think I've got it now.

GOOD.

Steve what I did when learning positioning from Jim was to keep looking over and over and over at the "pictures" of what it was ok?

That repetition helped a LOT. Jim is an extremely SHARP teacher and this is what he did with me so I pass it along here

Richie

RichieP 02-13-2007 09:50 AM

3rd Key - Early / Other than early
 
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Let's go directly to the BIG question. WHOM are we going to bet in THIS race. No sense dancing around this. We will deal with the rest after.

"Rich the race is going to be run Early or other than early ok? Forget about nitpicking running styles with all this presser,early presser,sustained presser,late bullcrap. This is a much simpler way to look at a race and find the horse to bet. Keep an OPEN mind." - Jim Bradshaw
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Finding the horse to BET:

EARLY - a horse who we project to wire the TODAY'S field. When looking at the pp's for the race this can be a horse who has the lead at the first call or a horse who is 2nd-hd / 2nd-nk but figures to get the lead against TODAY'S field and wire them. **This can only be ONE horse**
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I am going to show a couple of screenshots now but first PLEASE go back and read again the previous post about matching the earlies at the FIRST call and eliminating those that can NOT get the lead they need to WIN immediately ok? Very important.

Here is a screenshot from just last night at Mnr. Here are the horse's Power lines. We see 2 early runners. The #4 and #8. Check the first calls on both and you should see the #4's life is over as the #8 DOMINATES him early.

That means in TODAY'S matchup the #4 is NOT early but is reduced to other than early with the presence of the #8.

He MUST be removed IMMEDIATLEY from consideration. NOW

first the screenshot of the field please

RichieP 02-13-2007 09:56 AM

3rd Key - Early / Other than early - who to bet
 
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we have removed the #4 and now re-evaluate the race.

The #8 now appears as Lone Early and has the added plus of TWO calls of "FIGHTING" (1c-2c) that should not happen today. This is extra units if energy available for him TODAY.

Also notice that NOW the next closest horse POSITIONALLY after the #8 is position FOUR ok? There are NO pos 2 or even 3's NOW.

We have a FAST dominant early horse with no positional challenges

LOOK at the picture please

RichieP 02-13-2007 10:01 AM

3rd Key - Early / other than early - who to bet
 
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so TODAY'S race is gonna run EARLY with the #8 dominant. So we throw EVERYONE else the heck out NOW.

Yes that's the Hat in action man. Throws whole chunks of the field out IMMMEDAITELY.

Here is what is left to make WIN betting decisions from.

kind of EASY to figure out

THIS is how to figure out and work the EARLY race shapes.

The #8 is the winner of the race - $4.80


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