MatchUP intuition is "Primary", MatchUP mathematics is "Corollary"/Secondary
 

Hey, dudes, let's get back to some hardcore "HAT" style MatchUP.

We either know who is going to win the race, even if we are wrong, or we pass and continue to practice and do homework in "Hat Check".

Let's drop all these "other" factors and unsure things that are not part of The MatchUp.

We have The Mind's Eye, FPLR, 1st Call projection as the main meat along with other subsidiary factors like in Richie's 8 month update and other MatchUp mathematics to compare horses to each other.

Thanks to Pete , this review.....

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...5&postcount=11

.....got me to thinking.

To me, seems like The Mind's Eye exercises always bring you back when you get too far off course doing too many things, different directions.

It simplify's things, quiet things in your head, we have so much Match Up information.

The Minds Eye is absolute brilliance of a master teacher, THE HAT. Within it, it is like an Automated Software teaching device FOR THE BRAIN that teaches and makes you see things according to your own , personal mind sight, it teaches The MatchUP according to what you can see.

So drop the class, money earned, trainers, barns, dosage, # starts, jockey, post position, beyer numbers, mud shoes, one computer rating, speed ratings, and other stuff that confuses us and have us in a zillion possible directions and possibilities...that "stuff" has been addressed in The MatchUp 2 book under "bias".

Remember what THE HAT says about horse racing and what Richie continually drives into us:

"EARLY" OR "OTHER THAN EARLY" ?

"The race starts when the gate pops Richie"--Jim "THE HAT" Bradshaw


But here is the kicker...

When reviewing The Mind's Eye threads, again, seeing something I thought already digested.

THE HAT drove into Richie what Richie always tries to remind us of, intuition.

There's deeper stuff in that Mind's Eye , folks.

For instance, look at #6, Kim's Gold :

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3976


STUDY THIS RACE , FOLKS AND LOOK AT THAT HORSE.

This is NOT a special voodoo situation.

This race is an example of several things that is and will be universal in all races using THE MATCH UP:

1) #6 Kim's Gold has NO POWERLINE to todays projected 1st call

2) #6 Kim's Gold has NO PACELINE to todays projected 1st call and 2nd call (sorry computer users)

3) #6 Kim's Gold has NO LINE for MatchUp horse vs horse, this horse would be ELIMINATED ( you know the method, starting with the the 1st horse in race, matching him with the 2nd horse, eliminating the loser , then going to the 3rd horse, etc.,)

This race is a prime example of why THE HAT said he could not use software.

This race is a prime example of why THE HAT said he does not pick pacelines.

This horse only has "position" to 1st call projection and "powermove" from THAT position or further.

This demonstrates that powerlines and powermoves and other factors are secondary to the primary, which is "INTUITION" ,Early or Other Than Early?

Once we KNOW how the race is going to run , we FIND and GET that horse, EVEN IF WE ARE WRONG.

I initially thought this "voodoo" race was a special circumstance of THE MATCHUP.

It is not.

Where does a horse like to be or is more likely to be TODAY at TODAYS 1st call projected pace?

Like Doc Sartins software, one of its primary purposes, THE MINDS EYE/The MatchUp, is to teach how to handicap

2) Teach you where your winners, according to your handicapping, is coming from

3) Have back up corollaries to support what you choose to give more confidence in your decision and/or show weaknesses in your handicapping and where one needs improvement.

The back-up corollaries for the MatchUp are the 8 month update, The examples in the Match UP 2 book, the math of moving a horse up in position and/or lengths to a projected slower fractions, powermoves, powerlines,etc.,.

The Mind's Eye will bring you back home and gives one the opportunity and chance to quiet the overload of information in the mind and confusion.

The MatchUp is not if's, and's , what if's and but's...,

"Early" or "Other Than Early"

Good job, PeteC.

VoodooFan

Another Example-more advanced
 

I think this is more of an advanced race that needs study.


http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1283



Probably get killed using The Mind's Eye on this one , but maybe not.

The principles still applies, its just knowing WHEN to apply them.

Early or Other Than Early ?

Since the other horses are too far back to make an impact or effect IN THIS RACE, my personal opinion is that there is a deeper Minds Eye sub-lesson in this race.

Mind's Eye projection of a horse with Multiple Running Styles......?

Mind's Eye of paceless races....?

Lets get to it, true MatchUp students.

VoodooFan

If you notice, most, if not all, of the Pirco Charter Teachers got sent software with NO INSTRUCTIONS.

One thing it simply did was sharpen and hone in on what the person already knows about handicapping , and, to use what THEY see as unique individuals and talent that could augment and improve the software.

That why pro's like Bob Cochran can probably use ANY software or system and still get his winners, the use of the software reflects HIS sight and handicapping, not the other way around.

Remember an old Pirco axiom :

90% of handicapping is done BEFORE the computer is turned on.

VoodooFan

Oh yeah, "...and maybe, this horse and this horse, and possibly that other one...."

Early or Other Than Early - THE HAT

Early or Other Than Early - RichieP

VoodooFan

Pattern
 

When the pattern presents it's self you would bet

Dlivery

Early or Other-Than-Early
 

So now the question becomes......,


DO WE really, REALLY KNOW and understand WHAT "EARLY" IS?


Check this out, a refresher is always good :


http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthr...?t=4761&page=5



VoodooFan

Think this mostly answers the question of the above race and a habit of thought that needs to be practiced:





VoodooFan

With further reading we get to look at this..........,




THEN, We get the cherry on TOP of that......,



To me, that says eliminating the NEED-TO-LEAD horse still does not mean the race will not run early.

That's why this horse won...,:

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1283


Evaluating the NEED-TO-LEAD horse(s) separately with themselves or with the other Early group , THIS looks like a great way to determine ONCE AND FOR ALL..........,

"Early" or "Other-Than-Early" :


http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=41



VoodooFan

Hi,

Im new on board here and sorry to butt in but The Match Up was not supposed to be a entity of it's own but rather a part of the Methodology.Doc was miffed how people would try to emulate the Hat when the match up is incorporated in the programs.Of the older programs Doc felt that KGEN was the best one for matching horses.

So now the question becomes:
"How do we consistently get horses like these ..?"

Remember, this horse "only" has POSITION and POWERMOVE in his past performance from that position or further.

How do we use POSITION and when do we know when to use it?

Either we wait for a number of NEED-TO-LEAD horses that are of equal talent at the first call to kill each other so we know what POSITION the winner will most likely come from.......,

.........or we stack all the EARLY runners to determine "Early or "Other-Than-Early" and eliminate them all and simply find and bet the OTE that is closest to lead positionally factoring in pace of race, like this......,


http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=41


.....but if we did that, it would eliminate #6 Kim's Gold who ONLY had
POSITION and POWERMOVE from that position or further.

So, next homework/research assignment is to see does stacking the EARLY like this--


http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=41


--also gives us a potential POSITION point from which the OTE winner will come from......so maybe two matchups, matching the two BEST Other-Than-Early to find the winner......,

1) The 1st OTE will be from " the closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race"

2) The 2nd OTE will be the best from POSITION with a POWERMOVE from that position or further........., and "IF" he has fractions comparable to todays projected, so much the better, more SECONDARY corollaries and Match Up math to laser in on our ONE horse and give us confidence in our decision, as INTUITION is the PRIMARY factor.

......back to "Hat Check".....,


VoodooFan

Primary "INTUITION" got #6 Kim's Gold, not math, jockeys, a paceline, variants, rails in or out, trainer stats, sire ratings, tote action, leg wraps, blinkers, dosage, you name it...,

Lets Get-The-Horse, "First"....,

"EARLY" or "OTHER-THAN-EARLY"

VoodooFan

Positions, Beaten Lengths & Match Up lengths
 

#1 - http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...52&postcount=6





#9- http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...0&postcount=14




#6- http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...7&postcount=11



VoodooFan

Bears repeating

Let's start with NEED-TO-LEAD horse:



Seen this a few times.

A NEED-TO-LEAD horse whether he is GOOD or BAD, B-U-T, has NO fractional or positional challengers or equals at the 1st call....,


........ there are NO positions to count, because he DOMINATES , EXCLUSIVELY, that 1st call....,

.............. and there are NO 2nd/3rd position horses with equal or faster pace of race at 1st call and 2nd call.....,

.........and there are NO FASTEST PACE LAST RACE Early or O-T-E...,

.........and there are NO 4th and further who has powermoves, powerline, faster pace of race fractions because they are simply TOO FAR BACK....,

........an "ugly" NEED-TO-LEAD horse that is deteriorating can still win the race, especially when he normally holds the lead until the stretch before he coughs up a liver.

********* Remember this horse? *********

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=19


Compared to the "others" there ARE no OTHER POSITIONS to count, although he is a pretty "ugly", deteriorating Early, knee-jerk is to throw him out and look for OTHER-THAN-EARLY....., there is NONE, position-wise or otherwise.

Look at that = Minds Eye = on this Early horse, 3rd line.

Looking for n-i-i-i-i-c-c-c-e looking, pretty, formful pace lines or do we DO what is instructed :


Back to the basics, man..., be honest, we forget and usually throw him out, if not, you're keeping true and retaining the basics.

I did not because I keep forgetting.

Looks like I have to do like some holy men in isolated Temples and repeat and chant over and over and over again for hours and days or weeks until its "1st-sight"/ "2nd nature".......,

......or sound like Rain Man, repeating over and over, like Turrets syndrome..,


VoodooFan

Bears repeating.

Let's put our Stetsons on and get to that "HAT" zone, its a nice place to be.

Hi guys
This forum was asked to be created by Charlie D and others to keep a line open for those who like to "match" horses.

From the posts in this forum by folks it is apparent that there are MANY different forms/methods/procedures to accomplish this "matching". It is as it should be in my opine and it's all good! :)

The "Hat Check" forum is the way that Jim taught ME and he was first to admit that he taught his students differently after speaking with them to determine their strengths/weaknesses. THAT way is the focus of that forum and those that are interested can study there at their convenience.

THIS forum has taken on the life of something kinda nice (I.M.H.O) in that there is a broad scope of different ideas etc all leading to the end result - WHO IS THE BET (S)

I like the fact that virtually all the time a winner is had that the winning capper has taken the time (both before and after) the race runs to give a bit of EXPLANATION as to the thought and decision making process. This goes for those using software as a tool and raw by the pps only stuff. It is ALL GOOD man :D

BTW feel free to post up races when you see one that you like. Just get the full pps up with screenshots (or links to the race pps) for ALL to be able to see, access and work (whether they post or not your time taken to do this helps EVERYONE and Jim would like that VERY much!)

Good matching!

hi guys

:cool: thread voodoofan.

A theme here.

It is probably so simple, that one may ask why even bring it up.

But I believe it is that that separates the professional and consistant winners from others.

It is something most talented handicappers do, but have yet to CLEARLY and SOLELY explain it as a concept within and by itself.

You'll here them mention it in their analysis and explanation here and there, but it is usually accompanied with some OTHER handicapping principal in such that the "other" principle, rule or factor completely OVERSHADOWS its subtle, yet simple and powerful guideline.

I believe if one can train ones self with either conscious drills or as a method/guideline in and of itself, that one can develop that elusive CONSISTENCY of winning , day in, day out, it can manifest....., that it can take one from where one is to levels that may have never been achieved or imagined, or at least, get one out of the hole of stagnation in improving and getting better, faster.

An example:

Horse A: Ten running lines, 4 of them on the lead at the 1st call.

Horse B: Ten running lines, only 1 of them on the lead at the 1st call.

Horse C. Ten running lines, only 1 of them 2nd by 2 lengths at the 1st call and only 1 of them 2nd by a head at the 1st call.

9 out of 10 times, Horse A: will get the lead.

9 out of 10 times, Horse B: will be nowhere near the lead, let alone battle for it or get.

9 out of 10 times, Horse C. will not be 2nd, and even much far less likely to battle the lead horse.

A horse that shows 1's, 2's and 3's in 9 past performance lines , and only shows (1) from 5th..., the chance of this horse running 5th today if the race calls for a horse from this position is remote, not impossible, but remote.

I don't know of a drill to get the habit of this, let the "HAT" quotes be your guide.


VoodooFan



p.s. maybe a drill similar to this one for all style horses, not just Early.

------RichieP



------RichieP


------RichieP


Jim "THE HAT" Bradshaw himself :

http://www.sartinmethodology.com/lib...191Tape9_2.mp3



VoodooFan

Those tapes certainly refresh what we have to do to matchup our winners.

Thanks for the refresher where to start as I have them in my Library from the past and can now refresh my memory a little as this seems to help alot

Thanks

Dlivery

Great lay out Voodoo. I'm off to re-read some stuff from Hat Check.

THIS looks like the best way, THE HAT'S way, of finding the winner of today's race.

THE TRICK seems to be INCORPORATING ALL the other tips (PATTERN RECOGNITION), The 8 Month Update, The 1 Year Update, Patterns of winning Early and OTE horses & horses that can win both E and OTE, fighters, Power Moves, Power Lines, Positions at 1st call, Running styles, Spriners in a Route, Multiple Earlies, etc...,

... AS one goes from the 1st horse in the race, eliminating the loser, matching winner against the next horse, all the way to the last horse in the race.

Projected 1st call & The Mind's Eye guide us thru the process keeping the other tips in mind.

THE HAT:

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...8&postcount=89


RichieP:

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=16

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=17

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=27

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=31

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Fastest Pace Last Race reminders:







[Positioning reminders:]

Sucker Horse:





THE HAT:

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...9&postcount=62



ONLY if you are practicing and doing the Match Up Jim "THE HAT" Bradshaw's way:


VoodooFan

Keep up the good work Voodoofan

Just wondering what others "Mind's Eye" that can get us more simple and deeper understanding of THE HAT'S Match Up.

Someone else's perspective can possible give us a view we have not considered or make what we already seen and heard with MORE clarity.

Sort of like looking at something from the top down, the bottom up or inside out, may give one, at least, more crystallization of what has been already taught.

We are NOT looking for tricks, gimmicks, one race wonders,touts, tout methods, tip sheet picks, luck , insider scoop ,clockers tips, "hossey"talk, horse lotto methods, "hossy" gossip or track talk, etc,......,

.....we want YOUR Minds Eye view....., a view that may have not been considered, of consistent solidified Match Up principles that WORK in races day in and day out as taught by
Jim "THE HAT" Bradshaw and Richie P.

Just a theory or wondering..., just like Richie P worked races daily with
THE HAT and got into "his" mind and method, what possible gains if that was done with other successful Match Up students personally tutored by Jim.....?????........could another "Mind's Eye" of a way a certain person perceives could get a little deeper, tad more clarity, different view that does NOT contradict what has been taught that works daily???

Like one guy can read music and the other just plays by ear.

Just speculation, just throwin it out there.

Whatever it takes to gain mastery in THE HAT'S Match Up.

The #1 Rule in the Match UP is that there are no rules.

VoodooFan

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Which looks to me like:

1st call - 2nd call - stretch call

5-3-1 ----- NO

5-5-4 ----- NO

5-2-2 ----- YES passed 3 horses

5-4-1 ----- YES passed 3 horses

Not a rule but a STRONG guideline.

If this is not correct, please correct me, thanks.


VoodooFan

How many ways do we have to UNLOCK a race, for it to unfold ?

Looks like our tools mainly centers on : 1st call Pace of Race projection and/or Fastest Pace Last Race.


1) The Minds Eye - needs Early horse(s) - 1st call fraction projection


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2)


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3) PACE-LESS RACE 1



4) PACE-LESS RACE 2


**********************************************************

5) FASTEST PACE LAST RACE

So once we "UNLOCK" the race, and WIN the race, there is a PATTERN there that has happened "before", many times.

So once we WIN the race, do we recognize what PATTERN it was?

Was it a LONE Early, Dominant Early, Clear-Clear Early, Multiple Earlies, Multiple Sprinters in a Route, etc.,?

We IDENTIFY the PATTERN or have identi-FIED the PATTERN and WON the race.

Now what???




Richie suggested KEEPING those WINNING races, keeping an amount to users preference, of RECOGNIZABLE PATTERNS, WINNING PATTERNS that we have Won, Seen, and can "SEE".

He also suggested we refer to them , often, get that Pattern "SET" in our mind.

I think he said use them like a "Flashcards" of sorts, different winning patterns that we can easily recognize, get them ingrained in the mind.

Richie has a lot of "Hat Helpers' and Step-by-Step Pattern Recognition exercises/drills given to him by THE HAT of different WINNING Patterns that recur over and over again.

We want to get as close to "HAT" like ability as possible.

We want to evolve and get better like THE HAT has done.

I did not try this, as Richie suggested, because I could only see some value in it and so me logic ( or lack thereof) went something like this:

"Sure, one could recognize a winning pattern in ones novice state.., but how would one advance and push the envelope of higher stages if all I am "looking" for and "waiting" for is the easy stuff I can already see???"

"How can this exercise help me win and recognize MORE advanced and complex races thats within the SAME winning pattern category, by looking and waiting for races I already see??"

"I pass hard races and wait for the one's I see in my novice state?? How can this make one advance?"

DUDE, IT'S RIGHT THERE, how many times does Richie got to type it?!?!??!?

CAN'T see the forest for the trees.

How often we forget how D-E-E-E-E-P and plentiful the tools we have here in The Sartin Methodology and The Match Up??

Simply do as Richie said as taught to him by THE HAT.

Keep the winning race you won, identify the pattern, Lone Early, Chaos, Marathon, etc., and refer to it often to put you in the zone more and more..., ...BUT

Either with Richie's template of Step-by-Step Pattern Recognition exercises of SPECIFIC winning patterns or consulting his personal help, simply SUBSTITUTE the race you won with the lesson he presented, and without fail, go thru the steps of YOUR winning race as he did HIS, Hat Helpers and all, and do EXACTLY as instructed, like this example :

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4497

Find different PATTERNS and lessons with THIS Step-by-Step approach by Richie.....,

....BUT HERE IS THE CATCH :

Of the races you WON of a particular pattern, if a recent race was a little tougher, harder, complex, murkier, SUBSTITUTE THAT race in place of your PREVIOUS race.

That means, you may have to pick one or two races in card that are not necessarily easy to recognize, NOT HARD, but not AS easy as you normally would handicap your other races.

These one or two races should be $2 bet races. Maybe do this once a month or whenever you feel your pattern recognition skills "seeing" these murky, tough races is getting easier and easier, and you need slightly more intense one's to replace the previous flashcard.

You need to add SLIGHTLY more difficult races to your portfolio of winning patterns for you to go over when you need to get in the zone, solidify them in your mind or simply practice of repetition so they can be more "automatic" when you open the form, like THE HAT.

Remember Richies "HAT" quotes on how EXTREMELY focused and relaxed THE HAT is.

Richies step by step drills going over YOUR winning races should get us even more closer, with this added twist, in my humble opinion, we got more to shoot for.

HOW many times does Richie got to hammer intuition and pattern recognition?

Which is why I mis-INTERPRETED this:


He was NOT talking about 1st fraction projection of lead horse.

He was NOT talking about finding the EARLY horse.

He simply opened the form, IMMEDIATELY recognized the "race that has run before" , FOUND the winning horse because another horse with a different name just like him won before, then proceeded to find a line to make the horse the winner or verify that THIS is the horse.

And here I thought that the first thing was to find an Early horse.

Spare no expense to make your winning pattern portfolio fun, nice, nice to touch and pick up, easy to look at, fun to look at, easy to carry and thumb thru, book form , folder, hardbound diary,etc., because you will be looking at it often, sharpening your "HAT" vision.

If you only focus on what Richie says in the exercises to do to YOUR winning races, and the races you get get slightly harder and more difficult in a gradual way, pretty soon, you will ONLY see what you need to "see"..., there will be no such thing as hard, murky, difficult, noisy races because you will have trained yourself to block out the stuff which makes us perceive a race as difficult.

Can you see the potential in this, right here in front of our face?

THE HAT did several things in his stage, that I know of, evolving and perfecting The Match Up:

He made hundreds, if not, thousands of graphs.

Then latter, he simply observed horses and there behavior.

What will be "OUR" evolving tool if we can ever get close to the instant pattern recognition level?

It is easy to see in the Pattern Recognition exercise drills that Richie provided, on how SPECIFIC and deliberate he tells us what to "look" at, we can now understand more when Jim lectured on a tape somewhere , this is why THE HAT stated something to the effect:

"...my eye's REFUSE TO SEE the Beyers numbers.., my eye's REFUSE TO SEE the class..., my eye's REFUSE TO SEE the post position..,

Perhaps one day, "our" eye's REFUSE TO SEE anything except the winning horse, so if we "refuse" to see the "stuff" that is unnecessary, how would we know if a race is difficult, advanced or too hard?

This is The Sartin Methodology.

This is The Match Up.

This is legacy of Dr. Howard G. Sartin and Jim "THE HAT" Bradshaw.

Richie , Ted and others has been faithful in this legacy of information.

We will never get to the bottom of our tool chest, and anything else in the marketplace now or in the future simply cannot compare.

Believe me, I tried to find, and bought, other stuff in an attempt to get a clearer perspective of The Match Up and The Sartin Methodology.

The closest thing was Tom Brohamer's book, so him being a Pirco Charter Teaching member, that really did'nt count.

The other was a sentence or two in Sal Sinatra's book, who was also a Sartin Methodologist, so technically, that don't count either.

Even read some of ex-Sartin members books, sorry, not close.

People's , we simply got to sharpen our shovels when digging in this vast tool chest is all.

VoodooFan

So now , when we do the step-by-step process of The Minds Eye and Pattern Recognition exercises, the DISCIPLINE to DO IT and do so consistently is more possible, now that we can see further into its final purpose.....,

....to TRAIN the EYE to go directly to whats needed, which in turn, TRAINS the Brain and Subconscious to faster and faster recognize more Winning horses and/or Patterns that have occurred before, INSTANTLY, at more and more of a GLANCE, NOT thinking, automatic, win, lose or draw.

By training the eye to go ONLY to the essential, we will began to develop a REFLEX action, blocking all other unimportant information, automatically, unless our GLANCE instantly tell us to automatically look there once in a while, intuition.

This becomes more doable.

Eye's NO LONGER WANDERING to who sired the horse, who trains the horse, the varients , to post position, to blinkers, to dosage, or any other "stuff".

With practice and skill, we may no longer even notice if it is a hard or more complex race, because we will be looking at NOTHING else.

VoodooFan

May have misspoke.

Pattern Recognition drills are probably a little different than referring to races ALREADY WON to "remember" looks faster and faster.

But still have to selectively KNOW what to look at and FOCUS ON in isolation, and how to "SET UP" your won race as in color highlights of the winning horse past performance line(s), break calls, 1st call positions, running styles, SPECIFIC things to look at to go over and over to remember and recall "looks" faster and faster.

Richie will probably have to tell us how to set up our winning race so we can look at it and remember the "look" and the "what" of what we are supposed to focus on {only}.

VoodooFan

"tried for the lead" , definition thru example :

pages 15-17

Stefie's Brite

(Line 3) ----- 311/2----1hd----11----141/4


(Line 4) ----- 21/2------2hd---21/2----981/2


VoodooFan

Here are 3 races won :

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3063


So now the question is what are looking at for it to "imprint" on our mind?

My debate is it is necessary to look selectively at specifics first, before ones eyes automatically can just simply scan the Racing Form race of the winning race and it becomes more and more recognizable, faster.

Like The 5 Step Approach, Minds Eye, projecting the pace, running styles, tandems, etc., are things that have to be constantly practiced to attain a level of proficiency before you can see more and more automatically and begin the next level of pattern recognition.

Some people can just simply shoot the basketball anywhere on the floor while others have to master a spot or distance from the basket shooting hundreds , if not thousands of shots to attain what others with the very short learning curve can do readily.

For instance, lets say we won and saved two or three races under the Lone Early category.

So , what factors or winning factors do we highlight so our eyes go there at a glance?

Is it:

Fastest 1st fraction projection ?

Normal break positions from the 1st fraction projection ?

Comfort lead at the 1st call ?

Specifc Comfort lead for "this" particular horse thru out the race ?

Does this Early need minimum Comfort lead in the stretch ?

Fighting ability ?

Ability to Power Move on the lead ?

Ability to Power Move from gate to 1st call at particular fractions ?

Ability to Power Move AFTER fighting ?

Other than Early ability to win ?

Other than Early ability to fight ?

The only Lead horse in the race ?

Or is the fastest 1st fraction Early's Minds Eye "all" we need ?

Other patterns like Chaos race, Other Than Early may require different things to look at and highlight.

But before we can start recalling past performances of races won under a Pattern category, we have to 1st win enough of these different type Match Up races.

VoodooFan

Voodoo:

Enjoyng the posts, but in this post you seem to focus on attributes of Early races and or horses. The only quibble I have is that the three races won reference at the top is to Other Than Early races.

Just thought that the race info imprint would have included races closer to your subject matter.

Printed most of this thread and the various reference material and read it two or three times on the plane to Delmar last weekend. Very good refresher and it helped in many cases.

thanks for the effort,

Bill

Just thinking out loud and publicly reorganizing study notes is all.

The thanks is owed to those that were quoted, but your nice words are appreciated.

In reference to me focusing on Early horses, that was just an example.

Lone Early, Other Than Early, 3 matching Earlies, Chaos races, Marathon Races probably have "some" similar patterns, but my thought and query, correct or incorrect is that each one has a "look" or "trigger" unique to that pattern.

Although I think saving won races under various pattern categories to recognize them more and more, faster, is getting into the advanced stage for most.

Lets say you saved two or more won races from certain patterns and let's say the "pattern" that is not readily seen is the very 1st square, a "spiral" pattern :

Lone Early pattern or look :

http://www1.math.american.edu/People...esummer04.html

Multiple Sprinters in a Route (Other-Than-Early) pattern or look :

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...w=1024&bih=653


As novice Matcher's , in the murky, jungle, confusion of the Past Performance of the Racing Form, we cannot readily "see" these patterns , to see what has occurred "before", to see the "same" horse, different name.

We would like to advance to simply open the Racing Form and see the pattern as clearly and distinctly as we can see and know the difference as the above two examples.

I think to advance to even approaching THE HAT stage, these patterns almost have to literally STAB you in the eye when you first open the form and look at the race.

What steps it takes to start, I am unsure.

VoodooFan

So we KNOW what DOESN'T "stab" THE HAT in the eye, because he said it on tape..., :

That means he is purposefully blocking out anything that does NOT tell him who WON before.

On page 87 of The Beginners Manual, THE HAT goes over The Match Up, there were some things purposefully EXCLUDED/WHITED-OUT in the past performance race he was going over.

This, is perhaps, a clue to the template we need to create for saved won races for particular pattern recognition drills, in combination with something like this :

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...7&postcount=10

or


This could mean that THE HAT is selectively looking at triggers/patterns, { Lasering-In } on particulars.

What he is ZEROING in on , specifically, holistically, at a glance, is telling him the type of horse that is needed to win this race that has run before.

"...there he is..., "

"....this same horse won this same or close to exact type of race.., "

".....his name has changed...,"

"....I remember this race, it has ran 100's of times before...,"

Like finding Waldo , here's the "jumble" of data, the Past Performance.., where is "our" horse ( Waldo ) that won this race before :

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...ed=0CC0Q9QEwBA


Or let's say the "flag" is Other-Than-Early horse, where is he in this Past Performance:

http://www.highlightskids.com/Gamesa...5.swf&varsIn=2

Ok, maybe it is not quite like these examples, but you get the idea, it has some parallels.

A very advanced stage of The Match UP.

VoodooFan

1st call - 2nd call - stretch call

5-3-1 ----- NO

5-5-3 ----- NO

Not a rule, but a strong guideline.

{Possibility} : Altered running style because of not matching: pace of race, power move, MOVED out of 1st call position due to better Sustained horses.


So now this horse is either non-contender or is considered a Late-Late horse.

But if there is are better Sustained horses, faster with better powermoves, more likely NON-contender than Late. He will be behind the better Sustained horses.

Can he win as a Late horse?



VoodooFan

We need to make sure we have THOROUGHLY evaluated ALL the Early horses so as to determine "EARLY or OTHER-THAN-EARLY".




LONE EARLY "look" :


"HIDDEN" EARLY :

2-1 ... 2hd... 3-2... 4-2

3-1 ... 1hd... 2-3... 5-1

"BEATEN" & "HIDDEN" EARLY :

1hd... 2-2... 2-3... 5-4..... Beaten Early

2hd... 3-2... 3-3... 4-4..... Beaten and/or Hidden Early

1-1... 1hd... 4-3... 5-5..... Beaten Early

3hd... 2hd... 2-2... 3-5..... Hidden Early

What makes this an even stronger statement?



Let's get to that Match Up homework/ research, people.

VoodooFan

"EARLY" OR "OTHER-THAN-EARLY"?

Are we forgetting WHAT is Early and missing these horses?

Have we evaluated ALL the Early horses in the race?

We are all looking, and usually the first thing, is to find a LONE EARLY, THE HAT'S Mind's Eye drill has trained us to instinctively look for that like an involuntary reflex action and "Little Cap" kept on reminding us with examples.

But let's not forget ALL the Earlies.....,

LONE EARLY PRESSER :


VoodooFan

"Early or Other-Than-Early?"

How many times does this have to be repeated?

Probably a million more and then some since we have yet/need to master the clarity and winning of and with The Match Up, "HAT" style.

We have to KNOW how the race is going to run, so we can KNOW what type of horse we are looking for.

We HAVE to KNOW what "EARLY" is and means, and what "OTHER-THAN-EARLY" is and means, without question.

As always, let's go to " THE HAT " for clarity and clarification, since he told Rich most races run
Other-Than-Early, let's focus on the DEFINITIVE definition of [one] "type" of Other-Than-Early race, a race that usually gives us fits and makes us unsure of our abilities :

* * * PACE-LESS RACE * * *





Ok , so by THE HAT'S above quotes, it is now easier than ever to spot and identify what type of race we are looking at and what type of horse we are looking for , especially if we ASK THESE questions and now can be easily answered :


**
* * * *
By what has been written, there are 3 ways a race "sets up" to run Other-Than-Early:

1) NEED-TO-LEAD/PURE EARLY horse(s) who collapse either on their own or by killing themselves off fighting for the lead with other Need-to-Lead horses. That may mean also no LONE EARLY, HIDDEN EARLY, BEATEN EARLY.

2) PACE-LESS race ----> a} a race without a PURE EARLY horse, NEED-TO-LEAD only.

3} PACE-LESS race-----> b} a race in which NO HORSE in ALL TEN past performance lines has EVER taken the LEAD at the first call, CHAOS race.



So...,

1) Determine "Early or Other-Than-Early" by the above definitions and questions, "PURE" Early horse/NEED-TO-LEAD , which is why one of the 1st things THE HAT does is this:

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...00&postcount=2


2) Determine what TYPE of OTHER-THAN-EARLY race, so as to zero-in on the type of horse we are looking for.

3) Next, use this quote to make sure we are evaluating the type of horse we are looking for :



4)


5)



6)

7)


So here is the best thread , using THE HAT method, for PROJECTING and going thru PACE-LESS races:

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3689



So it is easier than ever and quicker to know what type of race we are looking at and the type of horse we are looking for.

Now, we can better put together the tools of Fastest Pace Last Race, Voodoo Handicapping, Minds Eye , Running styles, Power LInes, Power Moves to more efficient use.

Jesus Christ, am I the only one digging into THE HAT'S Match Up here, meticulously analyzing for better clarification or are more interested in "tout" review of races, "playing" the tout, gimmicks, or are you keeping it to yourself?

RichieP excluded, notice most, if not all, of the personally-taught students of THE HAT keep silient and keep their level clarity to themselves.

Not counting the "celebrities, "experts" or "name-brand" ""handicappers"" that SHAMELESSLY for years steal from The Sartin Methodology without giving Howard/Bradshaw and company ANY credit of worth or worthy mention so as to keep up their reputation, fan following and ego.

Very few, if any, seem to talk or get into the Factor Analysis about THE HAT way of attacking a race and its study, attempting to master The Match Up, most like talking "crowd" talk or classic "hossy" paradigms that they can't take to the window EVERYDAY and cash a ticket on.

That even goes , to some extent, those attempting to master The Sartin Methodology.

You know, I got 22 or so tapes witH THE HAT lecturing anywhere from 3 to 30 minutes lecturing and giving examples on The Match Up, and at least 7 follow-along past performance races to follow.

I made 2 copies, one for THE HAT who wrote to me that he is amazed the things he is saying now is what he said 20 years ago..,

...and one to someone else who I got no response to..., those tapes, along with the 3 Match Up books and HAT CHECK are responsible for the little clarity I have, I'm probably the only one that gets excited to hear THE HAT lecture....,

....then there's one Sartin Seminar I let out to borrow , never got it back, probably lost, and it has been so long, I forgot what seminar it was.

Not too encouraging with all this stuff, but thats life, man.



I may be beginning to understand why....,

......and may start borrowing a page from their actions and following their lead.

VoodooFan

Hi Voodoo-

If someone can post up the PP's to race 2 at Santa Anita today (2/26), it fits the #3 description of a paceless race.

Maybe someone can take a crack at deciphering this one. I learned to identify the horse closest to the early pace as the likely pacestter and throw him out because he will be out of position today. Then, consider the race to run OTE and match the remaining horses. Honestly, I couldn't project a horse in this race to be my "lead" horse to throw out, except maybe the router (#3).

Pete