Pace and Cap  - Sartin Methodology & The Match Up

Pace and Cap - Sartin Methodology & The Match Up (http://paceandcap.com/forums/index.php)
-   Previous 'Handicapping Discussion' Forum (http://paceandcap.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9)
-   -   "Pace Battle Races "/ Spot em / Work em /Win em (http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=719)

RichieP 02-06-2006 05:53 PM

"Pace Battle Races "/ Spot em / Work em /Win em
 
In the thread on "Testing spec 150 and spand" you will see that in the 10th race at CT I have marked in BIG letters on top of the 10th Race "Pace Battle Race" and "watch the # 8 12/1 ml" . The 8 did win that race paying $ 12 bucks which was a bit short. Someone tapped into him pretty damn good ha? :D

Ok what the hell did I mean by that comment? Here is the skinny.

Let's take that race and work it using Val 3 please. We will cover it from a-z showing each horse's pp's the lines used the UNIQUE way of both hiding and identifying wagers and last but not least using the "Scatter" exacta to take even more CASH outa the race.

It all comes together very very nicely and I dont feel it is a redboard since I both identified the race AND the winner appx 3 hours before the race ran ok?

So lemme go grab some quick chow and then I will be back and will show you how to toally HAMMER this race into submission.

fwiw I have outlined the following EXACT steps MONTHS ago to a poster here. What you will see is NOT something created to hit THIS particular race.

Back in a few
Richie

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:09 PM

Sat 2/4 Ct Race 10 7f
 
1 Attachment(s)
OK first step is to pick pacelines NORMALLY don't go looking for anything
Let it FIND US for ME I pick lines highest SR last 3 races 98% of the time

here is horse 1 with the paceline used marked Track condition is fast and there is a lovely moon out :eek:

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:10 PM

1 Attachment(s)
horse 2 paceline choice

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:10 PM

1 Attachment(s)
horse 3 paceline choice

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:11 PM

1 Attachment(s)
horse 4 paceline choice

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:12 PM

1 Attachment(s)
horse 5 paceline choice

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:13 PM

1 Attachment(s)
horse 6 paceline choice

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:13 PM

1 Attachment(s)
horse 7 paceline choice

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:14 PM

1 Attachment(s)
horse 8 paceline choice

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:15 PM

1 Attachment(s)
last horse # 9 paceline choice

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:27 PM

1 Attachment(s)
ok now here is where procedure changes a bit

we hit calculations as normal BUT lets stop at the screen that pops up BEFORE continuing on please

what we are looking for is a MINIMUM of THREE need to lead horses at the distance structure at the FIRST and SECOND calls. That "trigger sends us into the following steps. In THIS race I see FOUR pure need to lead types starting at the 1c at this distance structure 2-3-5-6 in addition the 1 appears pure early type moving to the lead at 2c in addition the # 7 is showing need to lead in his route extraction. There is NO doubt there will be a "Pace Battle" early in this race .

of the 9 horses in the race only TWO are not moving to the lead at 2c the 8 and 9 lets remember them as I put the screen shot up please

here it is

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:35 PM

1 Attachment(s)
ok for this race type ONLY:

lets hide the "off the 2c" guys 8 and 9 now they will be brought back AFTER we determine who are the BEST or SURVIVORS among the need to lead guys for the remaing horses we are gonna keep as a final contender the horse with the # 1 ranking in the following THREE categories

1) TOTAL ENERGY - logical simply the fastest of the earlies
2) TOP EPR - The best of the earlies to the 2c
3) TOP L/EP - found on the energy generator screen - the best LATE of the earlies factoring in total energy ( a component of l/ep)

ok so among our earlies in the race ( remember we bring the 8 and 9 back after this) here is the screen shot of the primary factors screen

we see the # 1 horse is BOTH top total energy AND EPR so he is in

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:38 PM

1 Attachment(s)
now moving to the en gen to find our BEST L/EP guy among the earlies we see it is the # 7 ..

ok so our contenders among the earlies are the 1 and 7

lets hide ALL the other earlies and bring back the 8 and 9 now

so our FINAL contenders are the 1,7,8,9

here is en gen showing the 7 as best l/ep

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:43 PM

1 Attachment(s)
now we want to BET the horses that remain as contenders who are the FARTHEST out from the lead on the "SCBL" screen this is a bit of a "positional" stance in this race type

here is the screen shot SCBL clearly is showing our BETS as the 7 and the 8 POSITIONALLY the next screen we will blend this positioning with some velocity / energy data for added confidence in wagering and also possible exacta wagers including the "Scatter" ;)

bl/bl showing 7 and 8 as farthest out at SCBL

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:45 PM

1 Attachment(s)
ok my KEY to added wager confidence is to have these 2 "Positional" BETS the 7 and 8 in this case ALSO be the TOP 2 in L/EP among the 4 remaining contenders lets see the en gen screen to see

turns out they are !

RichieP 02-06-2006 08:52 PM

ok this last step has TRIGGERED me to fire in this race on ALL fronts

btw we were able in THIS race to reduce to FOUR contenders METHODICALLY right? primarily cause the # 1 is BOTH top TE AND top 2c.


so if we are making confident winbets on the 7 and 8 that leaves us only 2 horses remaining correct? the 1 and 9 Guess what??

HELLO SCATTER EXACTA 78/ 19 our 2 win bets over the 2 remaining contenders WHEN we can positively reduce to FOUR contenders

WIN BETS 7 8
EXACTA "Scatter" 7 8 / 1 9

if u care to check the results it is quite a score to be made especially if u are someone like a Charlie who pounds away at trifectas too!

winner # 8 - $ 12.20
place - # 1 Exacta 8-1 =$ 98.80
show - # 9 Trifecta 8-1-9 $ 1,026.00

See if it can work for you. If not "kick it to the curb"

Richie Pizzicara

MIKE 02-06-2006 09:01 PM

Great job Richie!!!!!

---really appreciate it.

shoeless 02-06-2006 09:21 PM

Richie,On Alaska Ash you went down to the 3rd back a distance race and today was a 7 fur event why not use a 7 fur paceline instead.By the way the reason he was bet down the track was listed as sloppy and if you went back into his pp's he had won a slop race by 14 lenghts.Jeff

alydar_ David 02-07-2006 12:28 AM

Very creatvie, Richie!

:>)

RichieP 02-07-2006 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIKE
Great job Richie!!!!!

---really appreciate it.

I hope it can work for you Mike!

WAIT for everything to be SO easy just like the working of this race ok? ANY doubts or feeling that the race u are looking at MIGHT not be right PASS PASS PASS

when it ALL comes together EFFORTLESSLY thats when you fire man!

Rich

RichieP 02-07-2006 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeless
Richie,On Alaska Ash you went down to the 3rd back a distance race and today was a 7 fur event why not use a 7 fur paceline instead.By the way the reason he was bet down the track was listed as sloppy and if you went back into his pp's he had won a slop race by 14 lenghts.Jeff

It's my opinion Jeff that a route is very comparable to a 7f race even though its around 2 turns so that line 3 for ME is best of last 3 comparable

I am also VERY RARELY going past line 3 in the last 2 months.

thanx for the info about the off track now the betting makes some sense!
Richie

RichieP 02-07-2006 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alydar_David
Very creatvie, Richie!

:>)

maybe too much time on my hands matey :D lmao!

Rich

RichieP 02-07-2006 07:27 AM

Please Read
 
in post 15 in this thread I originally said "top 3 l/ep" for added wager confidence


it SHOULD read " top 2"


I edited that post to correct it

Rich

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:12 PM

LIVE example Beu race 6
 
1 Attachment(s)
Today at Beulah let's work the 6th race. It has NOT run yet.

the # 4 is scratched
first the pacelines:

horse 1

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:13 PM

1 Attachment(s)
horse 2 paceline

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:14 PM

1 Attachment(s)
horse 3 paceline

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:14 PM

1 Attachment(s)
the 4 is scratched

horse 5 paceline

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:16 PM

1 Attachment(s)
horse 6 has 2 76 speed ratings as u see I simply hit f6 which piks line 2 so line 2 it is

paceline

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:17 PM

1 Attachment(s)
horse 7 paceline

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:18 PM

1 Attachment(s)
horse 8 paceline

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:19 PM

1 Attachment(s)
lastly horse 9 paceline

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:22 PM

1 Attachment(s)
hitting calc and stopping we see the 2-7-8 as on the lead at BOTH 1c and 2c velocities look close so I would definitly work this race as a "battle" and see what shakes out


screen shot

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:25 PM

1 Attachment(s)
so the 2-7-8 are the earlies I will hide everyone else for now bring em back later after we see who is best here ok?

top tot energy - 7
top epr - 7
top l/ep - 7

as we see by the next 2 screen shots showing primary and en gen the # 7 is the DOMINANT early

here is primary

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:26 PM

1 Attachment(s)
now the en gen showing the 7 as best l/ep

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:33 PM

1 Attachment(s)
ok so the 2 and 8 are hidden now as the early matchup losers with the 7 the clear winner

lets bring back the "others" now and include the 7


bl/bl shows the 3 and 9 as the bets being furthest out from the battle up front

screen shot

RichieP 02-07-2006 02:37 PM

1 Attachment(s)
switching from postional to energy/velocity we go to the en gen screen looking for our 9 and 3 to be ranked top 2 in l/ep

looking I see they are ranked 1 and 2 respectively


I have my bets here no question

Win Bets 9 and 3

NO exactas of any kind just look at the mess on bl/bl doesnt look like that CT race at all does it????

so I will make my win bets and move on dont wanna force anything

"Capeet" ?

Richie

MIKE 02-07-2006 03:40 PM

Richie

You da Man!!!!!

MIKE 02-07-2006 03:57 PM

I hope you really nailed him at the windows!!!!


Great handicapping!!

RichieP 02-07-2006 03:57 PM

Result "Cha Ching"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MIKE
Richie

You da Man!!!!!

Thanx Mike.

Our 3 wins at 20/1 yes 20/1 and pays $ 42.60

"Cha Ching" :eek:

Richie

Binder 02-07-2006 05:45 PM

$42!!
 
Rich a great big High Five to you

wow He had energy "'':)


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:45 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.