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gfnut 08-06-2011 02:40 PM

Del Mar 8/05 with New Pace and RDSS2
 
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am showing screenshots of New Pace with results ran through RDSS2. I took the early horses from NP and ran through RDSS2 and took top 2 VDC and then ran the rest through RDSS2 top 2 VDC for the late horses. The screenshots of the RDSS2 is of the 4 that are left. I will not be betting. I am just testing.

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gfnut 08-06-2011 02:41 PM

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mikesal57 08-07-2011 09:33 AM

nice $89 winner!!

partsnut 08-07-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesal57 (Post 72576)
nice $89 winner!!

Out of a possible 4 horses?:eek:
How would you have split them and come up with the winner?
Where does the handicapping come in

This time the 4 horses included the winner.
More times then I'd like to mention it won't.
As well, 4 horse exactas at tracks like DMR are in my opinion,
a losing proposition.

Please don't fault me for my opinion but
truthfully, I'm not impressed.

mikesal57 08-07-2011 11:44 AM

Bill..it all depends on the track...

to do a study at one track , you can come up with a winning proposition

at DelMar..betting 4 horse win bets seem profitable..but ex's and tri's aren't

somewhere else you can be profitable betting win bets over 7-1

some tracks are profittable with ex's

I have a study at WO doing OK with TRI's...

a little work is necessary .....

partsnut 08-07-2011 12:02 PM

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a little work is necessary ..
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I guess you have to be somewhat of a specialist and pick your spots.
The biggest underlying questions that I would have would be the consistency of the method being used and if in fact, it is worthy of ones time and effort.
What works today may not work tomorrow.
A long run analyses of a track broken down by concurrent meets over a 5 year period may prove or disprove the validity of this method.
As far as I am led to believe no one has done this yet and those that can, won't.
I would venture to say and this would only be my guess that the 4 horse exotics would fail as well as the 4 horse win selections.
If in fact I were wrong and the overall picture showed a profit in either category, I would further guess that the resultant profit, if any, would not be worth ones time.
Of course, this is only my opinion and I would not want to discourage or break anyone's bubble.
I guess one has to bite the bullet and find out for themselves.:confused:

gfnut 08-07-2011 03:42 PM

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Out of a possible 4 horses?
How would you have split them and come up with the winner?
Where does the handicapping come in
Maybe this is how you would separate and get the winner. Going back to line 7 on Benny is not out of the question. Last race was a come back race so he probably needed the race. So you can go back to a good race on this race track and get the winner in your top 2.

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partsnut 08-07-2011 04:59 PM

gfnut:
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Maybe this is how you would separate and get the winner. Going back to line 7 on Benny is not out of the question. Last race was a come back race so he probably needed the race. So you can go back to a good race on this race track and get the winner in your top 2.
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No offense intended but going back to a race that occurred 1097 days ago
does not make much sense to me. I guess you can make a case for any horse but in this case and for me, it would not be a prudent move. The only thing that this would tell me is that there was something very wrong with this horse. His first time back was not much of clue or indicator that this horse was fit and ready to win. Being entered in low maiden claimer after such a protracted layoff tells me that they got this horse ready to win for the purpose of recouping some of their expenses with the purse and betting money with the hopes that someone would claim it possibly in his next outing. I would doubt that this horse will ever be a factor in it's future races.
This trainer should be looked at for future betting ploys. He kept this one well hidden.

For The Lead 08-07-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gfnut (Post 72620)
Maybe this is how you would separate and get the winner. Going back to line 7 on Benny is not out of the question. Last race was a come back race so he probably needed the race. So you can go back to a good race on this race track and get the winner in your top 2.

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I don't use New Pace, I don't use RDSS and I don't play DelMar, so none of these have any bearing on what follows.

You ARE kidding, right? lol

This horse shows a series of decent races... THREE YEARS AGO.

It shows a layoff of OVER TWO YEARS... after the last of that series of decent races. The horse was OBVIOUSLY injured. No horse stays off the track for two years unless it is injured.

After that TWO YEAR LAYOFF, it comes back and runs 4 dismal races.

Then it is off another 8 and a half months and comes back to run another dismal race.

Now you want to go back to the horses "lifetime BEST" race from "1097" days ago, use THAT line and say the horse is going to run back to THAT LINE today?

Is a crystal ball involved in this decision?

Like I asked at the outset, you ARE kidding, right?

gfnut 08-07-2011 07:33 PM

partsnut

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No offense intended but going back to a race that occurred 1097 days ago
does not make much sense to me. I guess you can make a case for any horse but in this case and for me, it would not be a prudent move.
New Pace had that horse in the top 4. You asked how some one would pick that horse to bet on. I showed you a way to do that using RDSS. So it makes no sense to you to go back that far and get a race to use, thats fine. You still could of bet all 4 at odds of 5/1, 7/1, 12/1, and 40/1 to make a nice profit. This was a 20,000 maiden race, with no horse looking like a stand out. Not all people are spot players like you. Some people will bet on longshots and win on this race and others like it. You don't have to make sense of it because, you would never handicap like this. Good luck on your 4/5's.

gfnut 08-07-2011 07:39 PM

for the lead

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I don't use New Pace, I don't use RDSS
That's why you don't get it. Yes, we are kidding you.

For The Lead 08-08-2011 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gfnut (Post 72642)
for the lead



Yes, we are kidding you.

WOW! That's good. I thought you were serious. I'd hate to think there are actually people out there that would choose to use that line for that horse. I know a rational person would never use that line. I'm really relieved. Thanks a lot. And, oh by the way, GOOD LUCK!

gfnut 08-08-2011 01:47 AM

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I'd hate to think there are actually people out there that would choose to use that line for that horse. I know a rational person would never use that line.
Here is a screen shot of a rational man using the last line from each horse of the 4 contenders that New Pace selected.

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For The Lead 08-08-2011 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gfnut (Post 72652)
Here is a screen shot of a rational man using the last line from each horse of the 4 contenders that New Pace selected.

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Nice play.

Keep up the good work.


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