How is rdss doing ???
 

This is race 8th at Golden Gate, on Sunday. I usually bet 2 horses to win...

Way to go Polambi, very nice hit.
Keep up the good work.

rmath

Nice
 

here is your winner
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Bill

Polambi...

I have no qualms about choosing the 3rd paceline back for #10 Central Heat but I was wondering your decision process for choosing that paceline versus the last paceline or the 2nd paceline back.....Thanks in advance....


I am usually looking for either the fastest pace of race fractions in the race or the best last fraction among all the contenders......

Thanks Rmath and Bill V. I was able to close the weekend on a very positive note, because I also won race 9th at Golden Gate.
The winner was a real standout, and had a nice recent workout. So I put $50 to win on it. This is one of the rare cases where I only bet one horse to win.

Lone Speed....... I always use the automated paceline selection feature of RDSS2. My choice is "best perceptor, Last 3 comparable". I only review the selections at this point, and look for "corollaries", like Doc prescribed, and recent activities, including workouts.
Have a nice day!

Polambi..

Great work and keep up your successful endeavors...


good skills

How is RDSS doing ? :)
 

Gulfstream from yesterday, #8. Turf race. I always include DCL 1 and LPR 1, as sustained / late energy in a turf route is important.
Dutch was 9/5. Projected payoff about 1.30.

How is RDSS doing ?
 

Gulfstream today. #1 Turf races always favor late energy, (IMO). :)
Dutch was 5-2, with insurance on 1 not too profitable, thus did exacta. Would probably have dropped #1 out of contenders, but with 1st look at all the horses, with all ranked, it was #2 LPR so had to look very carefully.

How is RDSS doing ???
 

Just as well as any Sartin Program if you use the vast array of distance and
surfaces as you have

nice win on the exacta
I would like to correct you on one point in both this race and the earlier post you made with your late on the turf proclamation

The title of this thread is how is RDSS doing ?

But in reality RDSS did not do anything that Sartin programs have been
doing for all these years

What YOU did was enter a very odd assortment of pace lines
You are working a 5 furlong turf sprint and you have 2 dirt sprints,
2 Turf routes at two different distance and 1 poly sprint
Anybody who has read even 1 follow up should know that turf routes
almost always favor late energy The famous ex jockey turned mystery
writer Dick Francis says that all turf races are really just 4 furlong races
its just that in turf routes the horses gallop about a mile to the starting line
Turf and dirt races are run differently, Horses don't have the traction
to get off to such fast starts as they do on the dirt
In North America to win on the dirt means you better be among the leaders
at the first and and second fractions especially for those two sprinters
you entered, Its only natural that they would not have as good a late pace
number as the two turf route horses

So now lets answer the question How is RDSS2 doing
My answer to your race today and at GP before
Nothing that All Sartin Programs have not done for years

Here are your same pacelines in 2 Sartin Methodology staple programs
Energy and Thoromation

Both program clearly point to the winner #1
with the top 2 LPR

This is not knock on RDSS it to show that the programs are only going to show you what you entered as pace lines


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1. I took the races as RDSS entered selected FOR me, and left them as such, so no, I did not do anything of the sort as you suggested.
2. I really do not like your patronizing tone one bit.
3. I do what I do, and know what I know from my records. I certainly do not need YOU to tell me how and why I do things.
Have a nice day.

agree
 

Thanks for your opinions

on what will work for the masses

Sorry to bother you

Bill

Yes indeed. Horses that pay $51.00 seem to be the choices of the "masses" now don't they.

I couldn't help noticing that all the winners, since the beginning of this thread, have one thing in common: they are all underlined in RDSS2, as best lates. which brings me to the conclusion that the best lates in RDSS2, are prevalent in turf routes. :)

I've been around this game for more than 46 years and during that time, for those paying attention, this has always been the prevailing wisdom and that was LONG BEFORE computers and computer programs.

The problem with this thread is…IT ASKS THE WRONG QUESTION!


RDSS, like any program, sits on your computer as dumb as a bag of nails, that is, until YOU (the user) gives it something to work with. Even then, it doesn’t know a thing about handicapping. It doesn’t know a thing about horse racing. It only knows how to process the mathematical calculations it has been programmed to perform.

As long as each user has their own concepts, no two users will get the same results, therefore...

The better the input from the user…the better the results.
The worse the input from the user…the worse the results.

So, here is the correct question.
HOW ARE YOU DOING WITH RDSS?

FTL hit the nail on the head, i had an issue with the OP' question in that RDSS is as only good as the person operating it. If you enter bad lines or incorrect lines, you will get bad results.

To answer FTL' question, very good thank-you very much. ;)

Fyi
 

Bill sent me a gracious and kind note, which will remain private. Thank you, sir. :)

Of course you folks are 100 % correct. RDSS is a tool. There are hundreds of decisions and assumptions that go into the process of handicapping, learned over many years by those who really study this sport. There is no free lunch. This game is winnable, but only for those who study it. Apparently there are concerns, occasionally, expressed to Ted about RDSS not picking long-shots. My only point was, that used with skill, it can alert one to a horse the public has over-looked, and indeed I would have over-looked. So my process is to take an initial look at RDSS readouts before final contender and pace-line confirmation/approval to see if I might have missed something important.

I'll enter these races later today also in Contender Scan and post those readouts also. I suspect it will also point one to the winner. I also need to read the later Follow-Ups. Since I just started winning, right off the bat, when I came back and began using RDSS, I had little incentive to study them. So I will be taking Bill's good advice.