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partsnut 06-29-2012 02:08 PM

Synergism - The Classic Handicapping Tool - The Best of The Best
 
Synergism was authored by Bob Purdy and was and still is one of the most formidable handicapping programs ever written.
Synergism has evolved into it's sixth revision, which requires an expensive data file subscription ftom HDW. However, the software is given free.

The earliest version (maual input) was very effective and had an auto variant feature incorporated into it which made things quite simple.
Some of the Sartin instructors had successfully used this software to achieve a profit. Dick Schmidt has always praised Bob Purdys work.
Elliot Sidewater was the consumate expert using Synergism 2 and
has written and shared his method with those that chose to use it.
Elliot still posts on the other Sartin group.

Some of us on this board are still using versions 2, 3. and 4.
The latter 2 versions require updated par times.
Suffice to say and in my humble opinion, RDSS with it's equalized and adjusted times would be complimented and enhanced 10 fold by the addition of a synergism file conversion feature. It has been promised but never given.

Synergism 3 & 4, would be my preference but Synergism 2 should be included as well.
These 2 versions enable me to project pace. The dream time feature that Jeff (Shoeless) had written about was all important to me and actually won me a contest with a $50.00 plus horse.

Not withstanding, I believe the importance of this software has been negated and swept under the carpet in favor of Energy and KGEN.
It has been promised for years but never came to fruition.

There are still those that use these programs and in my opinion as well as a few others, Synergism will run circles around Energy and KGEN.

Although the conversion to Energy and Kgen are nice features, I personally am not overly impressed by them and have not had or seen results produced by others that I would consider to be impressive.

shoeless 06-29-2012 04:45 PM

Hi Bill,

Hope everything is ok with you and your wife.

I know you dont have much time these days but really miss your posts.

By the way nice post on Synergism,I tried 3 and 4 but feel 2 is the best.


Jeff

gl45 06-29-2012 05:08 PM

told you so

shoeless 06-29-2012 08:09 PM

Pino,

Sure did



Feels like old times with both of you, I thoroughly enjoy it

shoeless 06-30-2012 04:16 AM

Bill,

Your post made me realize that within the Sartin methodology it doesnt
matter what program you are using it just depends on how the person
using it that matters most.


Jeff

partsnut 06-30-2012 01:42 PM

Jeff
shoeless:

Quote:

Bill,

Your post made me realize that within the Sartin methodology it doesnt
matter what program you are using it just depends on how the person
using it that matters most.


Jeff
Hi Jeff and Pino,

It's nice conversing with the both of you.
It's reminiscent of the many years (mostly pleasurable) that have passed and the friendships and associations I have developed on this site.

Jeff, I can't say I fully agree with you here. I believe that not all software is the same and that some systems and softwares are better then others. I guess each has their place. However, It's all good.

In this case, I would personally favor Synergism over Energy and KGEN. Actually, I have had good results with all of them but I believe Synergism is more staple and pace oriented.

I believe a file conversion to Synergism from RDSS would be a no brainer and handicapping a race would be a snap.
The pars from RDSS would be incorporated in the converted file and once equalized for distance and surface, all one would have to do is properly project todays pace and then interpret the readouts in accordance to the way the race sets up.

Jeff, you have the ability to pick pacelines and for you handicapping each race would be a piece of cake.

The premise is simple and should work well. All we need now is for the powers that be to incorporated it into the software so that it can be tested. At any rate, Synergism is a valid old school Sartin concept that has been effective and is still being used by some of us and would be used by more of us if it were present within RDSS.

Rather then being presumptuous or imposing, I am simply suggesting what I think would be an interesting and a benificial addition to RDSS.
Hopefully, It will be interpreted as just that.

shoeless 06-30-2012 09:14 PM

Hi Bill,

Just got our power back after 15 hours,with temps here hitting 100 no fun.

I see what your saying but for me even though it is more time consuming I
would rather put in lines myself.I feel that way I have a better understanding of it.

If you and Pino ahead of time ever want to do a race with Syn I would be in for it.

Jeff

gl45 07-01-2012 09:14 AM

I'm looking today CT 3-4-5-7
let me know

shoeless 07-01-2012 11:42 AM

Hi Pino,

Saw this late I was out restocking frig after power loss.

partsnut 07-02-2012 08:02 AM

GL45:

Quote:

I'm looking today CT 3-4-5-7
let me know
Hi Pino,

Actually, I am recuperating from a weeks stay in the hospital for pneumonia and haven't had the time or been up to doing any races.
Hopefully, we can do some in the immediate future.


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