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gillb 12-01-2019 12:33 PM

CSR / Composite Speed Rating
 
One of many questions.
Has anyone did a serious look (model) of this factor?
From Ted's writings he considers it a strong factor.
Thanks.,
gillb

Lt1 12-01-2019 12:48 PM

Richie Mathie [ R.Math] is the guy to check with. That's his baby and he has great stats on it. Shoot him a p.m. and he'll fill you in.
Tim

gillb 12-01-2019 03:07 PM

CSR / Composite Speed Rating
 
Can someone please help with this RDSS2 factor.
Matbe r.math
Thanks
gillb

Lt1 12-01-2019 05:39 PM

Hey gillb send him a pm. I talked with him today he will help you.
Tim

gillb 12-01-2019 05:51 PM

Csr
 
Hi Tim … thanks
I can't find his email/contact.
Bernie

Lt1 12-01-2019 07:42 PM

Bernie I'll send you a pm in a few.
Tim

Ted Craven 12-02-2019 11:31 AM

Bernie, you can read about the Composite Speed Rating (CSR), new to RDSS2 (i.e. not in older Sartin programs) in the RDSS Documentation PDF found in the RDSS Documentation section.

Here is the link to the RDSS Documentation PDF, which you can download and read for handy reference:

http://www.rdss2.com/pubs/RDSS2.1.Glossary.pdf

CSR is first mentioned on Page 3 of the Documentation. In the PDF, you can search for Composite Speed Rating or CSR to find other references to this factor.

You can also search the P&C site using the Site Search tool (http://www.sartinmethodology.com/googlesearch) to find existing discussions about CSR and its usage.

Still, I can recommend you talk to Dick M (rmath) about the work he has done with this and other factors. He has done that a lot in other discussion threads.

Ted

Bill V. 12-04-2019 06:39 AM

Non Paceline
 
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Hello

Here are some stats from my SoCal RDSS model
DMR and SA - All races

Factors APV, CR ,CSR, CR+, PL, RX1,2,3

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Bill Lyster 12-04-2019 11:28 AM

Bill,

Just a question. Is the CSR stat shown in your post, the original CSR that you get when you open RDSS or is it the adjusted CSR (if required)?

The reason I ask is when, say, a horse is running today at 9F but its last or second last race was an 11F or 12F race the usually slow adjusted speed rating from the marathon makes the CSR rank vs the other horses so low as to not be in the top 5 CSR. The CSR can also be low if the last or second to last race involved a significant trouble notation, in which case you might want to have the program not use the troubled race.

Regards,

Bill V. 12-04-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lyster (Post 124752)
Bill,

Just a question. Is the CSR stat shown in your post, the original CSR that you get when you open RDSS or is it the adjusted CSR (if required)?

The reason I ask is when, say, a horse is running today at 9F but its last or second last race was an 11F or 12F race the usually slow adjusted speed rating from the marathon makes the CSR rank vs the other horses so low as to not be in the top 5 CSR. The CSR can also be low if the last or second to last race involved a significant trouble notation, in which case you might want to have the program not use the troubled race.

Regards,

Hi Bill

Lovely weather we are having here in Northern San Diego. If I could I would be building an Ark:o

Bill What I posted from my model is out of the box RDSS. I am not sure how to adjust the CSR numbers

What I can do is post my SoCal model sorted to eliminate any race longer than 8.5 furlongs. This way in the few instances were a horse had been running marathons, and now is cutting back to 8.5 or less, I don't think the percentages would be much different.

Here is the chart from above but with no races longer than 8.5 furlongs

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