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Bill V. 02-15-2019 12:20 PM

KGEN/Thromation misses if you just look at the final screen
 
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Hello classic Sartin programs users

This is a race from about a week ago from Laurel.

I will just post the contenders first

My lines

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Bill V. 02-15-2019 12:26 PM

Nice
 
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Okay so everything looks in order right?
This was a 10 horse field, I eliminated half the field already, just from my
paceline/contender work

I am left with five horses
#2 # 3 #4 #9 #12

Easy I will just send the race to KGEN and run the race in thoromation

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Bill V. 02-15-2019 12:43 PM

Thoromation
 
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So I bypass all the KGEN Screen and just go to thoromation,

The first screens I look at are the preplay stop action screens
The one that comes up first in this race is the SP or OTE


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The opposite screen in this race would be the EXDC screen

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So it looks like a real toss up.
Who do I take?

Here is thoromation

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Bill V. 02-15-2019 12:49 PM

match
 
the best I can tell is thoromation and EXDC match

The top 2 finishers are the 2 and the 4

Guess what If I ran to the window and bet the 2 and 4
I would lose.

Take a look at this race.

If I just depended on the final thormation screen
I would have lost, But with a little thought and from reading
the Follow-ups The winner, although not clear cut from KGEN or Energy
or thooromation or even Entropy will not come up top 2 but actually
is gettable.

Bill V. 02-15-2019 12:55 PM

Conditions
 
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Now looking at the race in a more complete way,
The first step is to look at the conditions

This is an optional Claimer for $16000

One of the conditions is horses who have never won 2 races


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Bill V. 02-15-2019 01:08 PM

Conditions
 
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I strongly base my line selection based on the conditions of the race
I don't throw out many horses based on the conditions alone
but I look for clues when picking my pacelines

Here are all the horses again. Look at the class of the races
from which I took my pacelines '

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Two of the five horses # 3 and 4 come out of the same condition as today's race
Two horses # 9 and 12 come out of a restricted claiming race for CL25, nonwinners of 3 life. The purse for horses 3 and 4 was $23000
The purse for the restricted claiming race was $17,000

The 2 horse won its MS $23000 and now face winners for the first time

at this point, the 3 and 4 have a class advantage
I also know that I have a few things to consider about the 2 horse
and that it facing winners for the first time

Bill V. 02-15-2019 01:15 PM

Energy Generator
 
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The first screen we should be looking at is the energy generator

Here we go and sure thing what do I see

The #3 is a lone early

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Bill V. 02-15-2019 01:24 PM

pre play again
 
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Let's look at the pre plays again

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The thing to always check when a maiden winner goes against winners
for the first time is to check the TT or middle panel of its maiden win line
compared to the horses who have won

The #2 horse is very week on the turn This is a real neagtive

Bill V. 02-15-2019 03:10 PM

readouts
 
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I removed the MS winner # 2

Now I will check the line graphs

Each of the 6 line graphs shows no horse with an advantage or disadvantage

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I will again run the race in thormoation

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The 9 and 12 win
the 4 edges out the 3

Because of the #3 being the lone early, Along with the fact that none of the graphs show any advantage. The proper play should have been
win bets on #9 and #12 and a 3 horse box of the two win horse and the lone counter energy #3

I was sloppy this time, But following the Sartin guidelines I will learn to be better

Good Skill
Here is the chart


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Lefty 02-15-2019 06:51 PM

Thanks, Bill. From listening to some old Sartin tapes, several people mentioned they play the firs screen that comes up on Kgen/Thoromation.


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