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froggy 03-25-2017 11:21 AM

Profit line
 
Does one have to be on line with Twin Spires to make RX3 work?

mick 03-25-2017 12:09 PM

Hi, Froggy.

You have to login to Twinspires to retrieve the Profit Line data but I don't think you have to remain on-line.

Here's a screenshot of today's first race at Oaklawn. After I assembled the card, I logged into Twinspires for the PL data, but I'm not on-line now. And Rx3 uses the PL data.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2b1tw1.jpg

mick 03-25-2017 01:14 PM

Froggy, I gave you an incomplete answer. If you don't retrieve the PL data from Twinspires, RDSS will still provide an Rx3 score. Obviously, the Rx3 score won't contain the PL data. Instead, the CR+ (enhanced Class Rating) component of Rx3 will be given extra weighting. Or at least that was the case the last time I corresponded with Ted. He's always tinkering with his formulas, trying to improve them.

You can see the difference on the last two posts of this thread:
http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthr...849#post108849

froggy 03-25-2017 07:05 PM

Thanks.
I don't expect to get Twin Spires any time soon.

gandalf380 03-26-2017 07:36 AM

I signed up just to use profit line never sent them a penny

smitty73 12-03-2017 12:38 PM

Am I missing something? My Twin Spires account only show a Profit Line PDF that is a $5.00 to download. Please advise...

Lt1 12-03-2017 01:05 PM

Smitty when you sign into your Twin Spires and click on wager now you should be getting the profit line grid for the track you pick as your 1st choice. You can pick 5 tracks and get the grid for each when you click on that track.
Tim

smitty73 12-03-2017 01:50 PM

Thanks Lt1,
I spoke with Twin Spires it was trying to pull from a closed account.
Smitty

Lt1 12-03-2017 02:24 PM

Your welcome Smitty.
Tim

Ted Craven 12-03-2017 05:00 PM

Smitty, actually all you have to do is log in to a valid TwinSpires (TS) account. Then use RDSS to obtain ProfitLine (if you wish to use it in the RDSS data array) by clicking on the ProfitLine button on the Entries screen for a given race, or a given Card Summary, or ALL Cards in MyRaces for Today.

You don't have to interact with anything on TS in your browser to get ProfitLine numbers - just use RDSS once you've logged in to TS. Same with getting race Results and Mutuel prices: when logged in to TS, use the Mutuels buttons on the same RDSS locations as above (plus the Rx screen).

AND -- Mick's earlier comment about Rx3 is correct: Rx3 is in fact the array of factors shown on the Rx screen PLUS ProfitLine, while Rx2 is the same array plus an extra dose of CR+ (enhanced Class Rating) if you don't want to or don't have access to ProfitLine or TwinSpires. In the latest aggregate Models I've seen of many hundreds of recent races this Autumn, Rx2 and Rx3 and within a few % points of Hit Rate (not sure above ROI). Lastly, Rx1 is the above mentioned factor array from Rx screen plus Morning Line. For those tracks with strong Morning Lines (e.g. NYRA, SoCal, others - check your Models), Rx1 can be very comprehensive in the Top 3 or 4 ranks.

Hope that helps Smitty (and welcome!)

Ted


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