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tleusin 10-22-2008 07:57 PM

Curious about BC F/M Sprint
 
I keep coming up with Dearest Trickski, Tiz Elemental and La Tee on top of
Indian Blessing. Nothing in my head can accept this. Would love suggestions
on what I may be doing wrong.

lsosa54 10-22-2008 08:39 PM

Although Dearest Trickski may have enough class here, she is going to get heavy competition early from Indyanne and Dream Rush and she's got the least dominant early speed of the bunch. This will make 7f on the poly very difficult for her even though she'll be outside of the other 2. I'm also not sure she's fast enough final speed wise.

La Tee runs a bit too close to the front in this race for my liking without any real pace advantages early or late. Her speed figures are a bit low and I'm not thrilled about her class.

Tiz Elemental probably has the best running style for this of the 3 you mentioned but I'm not sure she's fast enough or has the requisite class and het late pace ratings are not dominant here by any means.

I'd be looking more for a contender like Intangaroo, Miraculous Miss, Zaftig, or possibly Ventura. If you want a real bomb that's light on class but may get a setup, look at Magnificience.

At 6f, I'd take a look at Indyanne, who is definitely improving, as inside speed to possibly steal this but at 7f, it's going to be tough. I saw here race at KEE and she just held on and there wasn't that much early pace.

I need to do a bit more work on this race.

tleusin 10-22-2008 09:19 PM

I hould have clarified. I am using RDSS and want to know if I am using it incorrectly. I agree with your analysis with the exception of miracle miss.
Thank you for your input.

Psychotic Parakeet 10-22-2008 11:19 PM

I keep coming up with the same thing too. I know some of you guys have little hidden tactics and secrets of messing around with it a bit to get some change.

It would be nice if everyone else is coming up with the same exact thing because that is quite a hefty trifecta and super we are looking at.

Charlie D 10-23-2008 05:54 AM

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Comparable distance, surface where possible, Top 5 CPR kept

lsosa54 10-23-2008 05:55 AM

Folks, I'm not sure what RDSS is coming up with since I haven't seen any screen shots, but think about this. Indian Blessing's LOWEST Beyer in his last 4 races, which is his one turn mile, is still 6 pts. higher than any of those 3 contenders best career Beyer. This is without considering class, pace, race shape, or anything else. There are several other entries with higher Beyers also.

As we know, final speed is not everything but that type of advantage is huge.

EDIT: Just saw Charlie's screen shot. While only Intang and Indian would be contenders for me out of that group, if I don't hit it, may it be you guys!

Charlie D 10-23-2008 06:20 AM

Match Up

OTE

#3 Intagaroo and #8 Tiz Elemental

Charlie D 10-23-2008 06:47 AM

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Line Selection

Best of Last 3 Total Energy, Top 5 TE kept

Charlie D 10-23-2008 07:04 AM

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Line selection


Best Pace of Race Last 3, Top 5 CPR kept

Charlie D 10-23-2008 07:41 AM

Well, i've done best SR and 2nd best SR of Last 3 as well and it seems The Modern Sartin Methodology think's Indian Blessing is no good here


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