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Tim Y 09-27-2016 11:46 AM

Man made class structures: BUNK
 
Horses run to their inherent ability, form cycle, and reaction to today's pace scenario. They know NOTHING about a man made overlaid class structure.

I have always gotten a kick at how handicappers unnecessary complicate evaluations with the idea that man made classes are something like actual walls that horses need to climb over.

Each race has a projected PACE OF RACE. The field competes with THAT not some class level.

In sprints for example, one can see 4f pace times from 44 2/5 to 46 with NO correlation to man made class.

The horses IN THE RACE set the level of competition not some qualification standards.

Sooner one abandons this fiction, the better their long term outcomes will be.

Lt1 09-27-2016 03:20 PM

Goes back to what Doc always taught Class=Performance=Class. Total energy better defines a horses' class.
Tim G

Tim Y 09-27-2016 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lt1 (Post 105789)
Goes back to what Doc always taught Class=Performance=Class. Total energy better defines a horses' class.
Tim G

BINGO..it is better NEVER to even LOOK at them

sureshotlink 09-27-2016 04:21 PM

Disco!

I totally agree with Both statements. Let our competition at the windows go on thinking that they can determine a horses class by some man-made structure.

Success to all,

Paul Link
Los Angeles, CA

vderdak 09-28-2016 02:52 PM

Are not all of the fractions, position, and lengths behind man made also?

MJS6916 09-28-2016 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vderdak (Post 105800)
Are not all of the fractions, position, and lengths behind man made also?

man definitely has, no doubt, some input.

MJS6916 09-28-2016 05:49 PM

revised post
 
man, no doubt, has some input.

(underline wasn't necessary :) )

Tim Y 09-29-2016 01:35 AM

I was talking with Robert Geller tonight about the "class structure" in Hong Kong. He said that a handicapping committee, NOT the connections looking at a condition book, rank the horses in classes from 1 to 5 or 6?

Whenever any horse does very well at one level or when they drop off competitively, they more up or down respectively: so it is COMPETITIVE status that ranks as their class level NOT some man made thing.

ONE side effect of this is that the same horses are racing against one another at a specific level over and over.

Tim Y 09-29-2016 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vderdak (Post 105800)
Are not all of the fractions, position, and lengths behind man made also?

NO OBJECTIVE observations


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