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RichieP 09-21-2017 11:07 AM

Saturday - 9/23 - Races of Interest
 
Saturday - Delaware - 2nd race - Paceless
6 horse field
60 pp lines showing
1 horse on lead at 1c (horse #3 - line 7)
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FP -5th race - a bunch of E types in full field sprint race
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FP 7th race - a bunch of E types in full field sprint race
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Prx 12th race - a lot of pace on in this 8.3f route. E and Ep types
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RichieP 09-21-2017 05:05 PM

Pace less - De;aware 2nd
 
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ok here is Saturday's Delaware's 2nd race - Paceless with 1 line out of all horses lines on the lead at 1st call.

RichieP 09-21-2017 05:07 PM

Delaware 2nd - Paceless
 
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Delaware 2nd cont

RichieP 09-21-2017 07:09 PM

lets leave a space or 2 to separate the races here:)

RichieP 09-21-2017 07:10 PM

1 more

RichieP 09-21-2017 07:11 PM

FP - 5th race - E Types
 
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ok now here is Fairmont Park's 5th race

RichieP 09-21-2017 07:14 PM

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.... horses

RichieP 09-21-2017 07:16 PM

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balance of FP 5th race

The Pook 09-21-2017 09:04 PM

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I have been looking for races with absolutely no 1st's at the first call anywhere in the PP's for any horse. Maybe too stringent. Last Saturday your race had a horse with an ancient 1st call and that worked in a paceless way.

Here is how I would approach the no pace Delaware 2 on Saturday. Kind of a hybrid thing. Narrow the contenders and select pacelines:



Could only throw the 1 out.

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Don't try to project the pace. Let RDSS show who may be in front at the first call.



From this screen:

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From what Jim wrote about these paceless horses toss out the two in front who are closely matched - the 2 and 4.

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Of the remaining, which look to be in their positional comfort zone in a winning race? Looks like the 3,5 to me. 6 wouldn't be out of the question.
As confirmed by these screens:


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So at this point using RDSS tools and the Matchup approach to a paceless race we are on the 3,5. I think. Anybody chime in with their thoughts. Would you try to project the pace?

Pook

RichieP 09-22-2017 09:10 AM

Fairmont Park - Race 7
 
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Here is FP 7th race going 6f


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