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Michael 06-13-2020 01:46 PM

The 5 textbook series
 
Good day to you all.
I was going through the older posts and came across
The 1986 Textbook series lesson 5.
Could anyone tell me what are the other 4 lessons are please, that way I hopefully will get a better idea of what to do in getting up to speed on the methodology.
Thanks for looking in.

Ted Craven 06-13-2020 03:16 PM

Michael, can you post a link here to that older post you were reading? It might provide clues to the Series you are referring to.


Ted

Michael 06-13-2020 03:55 PM

Here you are Ted on the second page of the manuals at bottom .
http://www.paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6141

Thanks

Ted Craven 06-13-2020 04:54 PM

Michael, I checked both the online server and my own local archive collection and I can't find any reference to the previous 4 books in that early series. Perhaps it was a one-off contribution by someone.

However, that Book 5 mentions it was gleaned from a summer 1986 weekend workshop given by Tom Brohamer and Howard Sartin. We do have a later 1990 audio series workshop by Tom Brohamer and it would surprise me if Tom's basics, as recapped at the beginning of that Book 5, had changed much from 1986 - 1990. Thus, you would undoubtedly benefit from listening to that audio seminar and following in the accompanying PD of teh workbook for it. Here:

http://www.paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6095

That said, and not trying to dissuade you from your forensic or archeological research into Sartin Methodology 'first principles' or its early evolution -- much of the early stuff is either insufficient to win in today's world of much greater knowledge, software automation and dissemination of original 'great ideas' (many of them originating from the Sartin Methodology), or still works but everyone else knows about it and it pays too little, much less than what made it valuable when it was new.

We advise newcomers to start their investigation of underlying principles with Follow Up Issue #70 and onwards where Howard starts to discuss the principles of Velocity relative to Deceleration (aka V/DC) and illustrate them with early versions of what became Validator which became RDSS.

I know you are not a newcomer (indeed one of the earliest members!) but perhaps a returning enthusiast seeking a broad understanding of the most important ideas of the Methodology? Presuming so, and presuming you feel the leisure to study and gain deep knowledge, the above references will serve you well. But so will posts by modern practitioners and explainers of their process such as (and not limited to): For The Lead, Mitch44, Bill Lyster, Bill V, rmath, Lt1, rdiam on betting, perhaps myself from time to time. And others.

Good luck in all your research.

Ted

Michael 06-13-2020 07:00 PM

Thanks Ted, I was just trying to get a better understanding of it.
The main reason I had not posted much was due to being in the UK, I was finding it hard to watch the US races, so didn't think much about it, but now am able to watch most of the racing and only really starting to understand how much it is different to the european way of racing.
I was doing well at Will Rogers downs but they are not running there at the moment, also with the lockdown not much else going on.
I have still been working so still not able to spend much time with it, but am slowly getting there (hopefully with the help of the nice people on here) yourself included.

Thanks for the link and the advice. Is getting late here so will say goodnight from the UK.
Chat tomorrow.


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