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DanBoals 08-19-2022 12:39 PM

Saratoga 8/19
 
1 - 1, 3, 2
2 - 1, 3, 5, 7 ( really like 3 )
3 - 2, 4, 5
4 - 1a, 3, 4, 5 ( I think 1a is false favorite even though great f3 compared to others )
5 - 6, 3, 7, 2
6 - 9, 2, 3, 6
7 - 1, 5, 6, 10 ( could make a case for most of the horses in this race, real crap shoot )
8 - 4, 7, 1, 3 ( 3 is the clear class choice but the layoff of 167d is not reassuring )
9 - 8, 3, 7, 6
10 - 3, 10, 8, 4

been a while since I posted, been getting killed lately, think it is my betting more than my handicapping, just trying to figure it out

Hanger 08-19-2022 12:42 PM

Good luck today, few of the races could produce some surprises for the reasons you listed. I didnt think much, just rolled with what it gave me.

Lt1 08-19-2022 01:00 PM

Good luck Dan.
Tim

DanBoals 08-19-2022 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DanBoals (Post 146289)
1 - 1, 3, 2
2 - 1, 3, 5, 7 ( really like 3 )

the first race shows the problems with maidens, the 5 wins on his second time out after a rather poor first race.

he did have:

msw to mc
trouble in fts
off 50d with great works
and good connections

I passed this race and was glad I did

5, 3, 1 finish

did not have the 5



the second race did a little better, I bet the 3 to win and place. I should have put him over and under the other 3 for the exacta, but failed to do so.

5, 3, 1 finish ( same as race 1 haha )

these were my top 3 picks in reverse order

DanBoals 08-19-2022 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanBoals (Post 146289)
3 - 2, 4, 5
4 - 1a, 3, 4, 5 ( I think 1a is false favorite even though great f3 compared to others )
5 - 6, 3, 7, 2

in the third, i did notice that the 3 had had his best race ever with Saez in the saddle, but I mistakenly discounted him for being too low class.

4, 3, 2 finish



in the fourth, I once again showed why I need to stay away from maidens

1, 1a, 4 finish



did ok in the fifth

6, 2, 7 finish - had all 3 in my top 4 selections




guess the day is going ok at this point

DanBoals 08-19-2022 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanBoals (Post 146289)
6 - 9, 2, 3, 6
7 - 1, 5, 6, 10 ( could make a case for most of the horses in this race, real crap shoot )
8 - 4, 7, 1, 3 ( 3 is the clear class choice but the layoff of 167d is not reassuring )


in the sixth race I had the top 2

6, 9, 10 finish



in the seventh race I should have had the 2 off the 2nd race back, but there were just so many possible horses within this race

1, 2, 6 finish



in the eighth race, the 5 was a young and improving horse, but it had never run in a stake, let alone won one, and a lot of these horses have won a graded stake. It ran well, but I did not have him. The 3 has won at least 2 G2 races at 9f, I am not surprised he was itm, even with the layoff.

4, 5, 3 finish

Lt1 08-19-2022 07:48 PM

Nice work Dan.
Tim

DanBoals 08-19-2022 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanBoals (Post 146289)
9 - 8, 3, 7, 6
10 - 3, 10, 8, 4

in the 9th race:

7, 3, 8 finish



in the 10th

3, 4, 5 finish

DanBoals 08-20-2022 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lt1 (Post 146301)
Nice work Dan.
Tim

Thanks Tim,

Having worked the first 5 weeks at Saratoga, I would like to think I am getting the hang of the track. This is the first Saratoga meet I have ever handicapped.

As I suspected, my handicapping is still ok. I somehow managed to lose quite a bit of money last week with this kind of handicapping. My betting is obviously terrible. I seem to zig when I should zag. Pass when I should bet, bet when I should pass. I really need to come up with some kind of betting methodology and stick to it.

Howard was great at teaching people to handicap, but whenever I asked him about betting, he was always more cryptic. He would say things like: "sometimes you should go down to the 4th BL to get a longshot, don't get locked into the top two" or "you have to know when to pass, that is the real key to making money". I am not trying to blame him, just like he maintained there were no hard and fast rules for handicapping, I am sure there are no hard and fast rules for betting. The main difference is that you can proof out ideas on handicapping on paper, but when I am betting on paper and when I am betting real money in real time, it never is the same.

If I ever figure out the secret to wagering, I will write it down. I think that would be as big of a break through as Pace was. Or, maybe I am the only one that really sucks at the wagering side of the game. :) Who knows?

If anyone has any insight on how to improve your profits once you get decent at handicapping, I am all ears.

Dan

DanBoals 08-20-2022 03:38 AM

Recap

BL 1 - 2.60, 11.00, 8.40, 15.60, 4.50
BL 2 - 4.10,
BL 3 - 10.40,
BL 4 - 11.20, 24.20,

Missed - 11.20

Exactas in top 4 - 80.00, 7.10, 197.50, 34.60, 135.00, 23.20
Trifectas in top 4 - 168.50, 1047.00, 649.00,


Brute Force Exotic Wagering:

Box all 4 for exacta costs $240, would have hit 6 out of 10 for $477.40, profit of $237.40
Box all 4 for trifecta costs $480, would have hit 3 out of 10 for $1864.50, profit of $1,384.50


Betting top 2 horses in all non maiden races:

6 bets for $24, hit 5 races for $43.60, profit of $19.60


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