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mikesal57 06-01-2008 11:19 AM

Match Up Discussion
 
Hi Guys..

With Richie away for now, maybe we can continue practicing The Match Up so that we wont get rusty.. and have tons of question for him...

With me being new to this and going over the Minds Eye lessons, I have a few questions to throw out here...

for me the fist part seems to be easy...listing running styles...and then the problems start...matching up...

Example...

Horse A..Early.....8 f 24...48...112...xxx positions 1st-2.. 1st-2.. 1st-2..

Horse B Early......8.3 25...48.4...112.4 1st-2 1st-2 1st-2...

Horse C Presser 8 23.1 47.3 111.4 3rd-1 3rd-1 3rd-1 1/2


Now according to this we have a dominate early and we should stop and go to the windows..... but we can see Horse C is the fastest of them all..

what to do?

mike

gl45 06-01-2008 11:34 AM

C horse is the fastest....he can seat 3rd. and still beat A and B
Hat said...."fast horses win races.."

mikesal57 06-01-2008 11:45 AM

ok..my fault...after matching up the 2 earlies..u next match up with the others

thxs

admin 06-01-2008 12:31 PM

hello
 
Hi
My look

The two Earlys match up I would go with Horse A

The presser horse C
ran against a much faster pace

In this race it will be behind hores A and B
but since the pace will be slower it sould have energy to
stay up there

Tim Y 06-01-2008 12:40 PM

Position does not mean energy distribution. ONE line does not represent the horse. Theoretical discussion to the point of impracticality.

Find the INTRINSIC nature of a horse's response to a variety of pace pressures, THEN consider multiple match ups or sample error may, and usually does, rear it's ugly head.

MIKE1121 06-01-2008 04:58 PM

Horse A will go wire to wire.... defaults to a lone early

Hores B will finish last

Horse C will follow Horse A and be lulled into a slow pace and finish 2nd, with unused energy reserves.

It happens all the time.


Mike.

shoeless 06-01-2008 07:58 PM

Does anyone think there is no right or wrong way to do The Match Up?That it's only a matter of how you percieve the race is going to be run.The reason I say this because no matter how hard you try you will never be able to emulate The Hat and Doc would warn not to.He was one of a kind.Jeff

mikesal57 06-01-2008 08:39 PM

Wow...now I'm really confused ..2 different winners

MIKE1121 06-01-2008 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeless (Post 33871)
Does anyone think there is no right or wrong way to do The Match Up?That it's only a matter of how you percieve the race is going to be run.The reason I say this because no matter how hard you try you will never be able to emulate The Hat and Doc would warn not to.He was one of a kind.Jeff


There are numerous ways a person can use the matchup and since we ALL are "one of a kinds" we will incorporate the matchup in our own individual ways becouse we all vary in how we handle intuition, this is the POWER of the matchup method it is for this very reason that there is a built in protection of maintaining our positive r.o.i. using the matchup.

Mike.


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