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stormbringer 05-02-2010 12:01 PM

May 1 2010
 
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many years ago as my father and I were walking in Oaklawn park ,my father saw a buddy of his . It turned out to be Howard Sartin the two of them spent the rest of the day drinking and singing he helped me at Oaklawn and I became a member of the Sartin Methodology.
I ask him how you pick horse forTHE DERBY. Every year I get out this letter. This year I was to lazy to get it out. But thanks to aldar_david I had the last race at Lad. .

SilentRun 05-02-2010 09:32 PM

I thought that was a nice post..........Ernie

HUNTLANE 05-02-2010 11:15 PM

Congrats
 
KC

Nice play!

pj

Ted Craven 05-03-2010 10:15 AM

KC,

That was a nice note from Doc!

I had trouble this year using Howard's traditional Derby guidelines. Super Saver certainly qualified off a very close finish 2nd in the G1 Arkansas Derby, and certainly distributes all his energy Late (as do most horses running routes), but using reasonable lines for the main contenders, as you show, and even adding in #1 Looking for Lucky, Super Saver does not rank highly in any Late Energy rankings, or in Hidden energy. Rather he ranks highly Early (F1 and to the 2nd call) and 'looks' like an Early horse (positionally). So how did he run: - 6-6-4-4-2-1 :confused: (positions by quarter mile). Given all the other Earlies: Line of David, American Lion, Conveyance, Sidney's Candy - you'd think there'd be a lot of work to do for an early running, early energy distributing horse, and that the race would set up Other Than Early as it typically does - hence my choices of the best Late Energy horses: Looking and Sidney.

If I had looked rather at the better Early Energy horses, I'd have been looking closer at Super and Ice Box... :confused: Is this a one-off situation (which can certainly happen), or are there changing trends?

But congratulations on that LAD race!

Ted

Hence my confusion :)

stormbringer 05-03-2010 12:55 PM

the work
 
IF I had done THE WORK and got the derby down to six I WOULD MAKE "THE EARL BET"
BET ALL SIX!! You do not know how many derby I have won with that Letter!
I was to lazy to get it out, and lost that race. teach me!! this is the best program for horse racing made.

uncleroughy 05-03-2010 07:47 PM

Just followed Doc's guidelines for the derby and Rdss gave me 1, 3 4/20 so I wagercapped for a profitable result.


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