What Happened?
 

To "K-19" and "Proggie" ??

I still use K19 for myself, not for distribution, it has alot of non sartin in it, and have been on a Val kick. Proggie is now called Handicapping OS and goes on line next month, all cards included, I think $119 per month. The aim is for the high end user who bets alot of races. Myself I focus on covering this track or that track completely for a period of time. Given the fact this board has reverted back to a less open format, I doubt you will see anything other than what wadsworth programed, which is not too bad if your talking Val3.

I never closed opened or changed the format
Just because you have a deep rooted hate for Doc
you can't stand anything positive about his programs
is not the fault of me or this board

The subjects lately have been the Trackmaster Varient and SR issue and That there is a tribute to Guy next Saturday at Santa Anita . And Ted posts about Speculator which is fine with me just as any one else can post about what they want or any program I don't care because
I'm always going to use Val 3 it doesn't mean its the program of this site

A very positive issue is Rich P's great work He is offering this method Free and I really appreciate his offer to our group
Shoeless is 100% correct at least he is offering things before the fact
I just go with what is posted If you think I change anything your blinded
by hate
Sorry I disapointed you

introduce other ways of looking. worth a peek. Whether others will embrace it, well that is a differnet ball game. I have seen many a senior be succssful with the "throw a dart" method in limited use, or the "pick the one closest to the grandchild's name" method. They can all work on a limited basis.

I have no hate Bill, I just do not care for old or dated or idols. I did not comment about Speculator, I did about Validator which was positive. You like the new look I don't, thats just the breaks. Its not about what I like or do not like and I did not think my comment was negitave as you feel, thats also the breaks. I will always be a straight shooter and say what I think or answer at least what I know, and thems the breaks with me.

Fair enough
 

Fast
Good points
Sorry you dislike the look
good skill and lets just see were things go.

principles of flight, as old as they are, still relate to an f-111 the same as they do to the Wright brothers airship. Energy distribution and exercise physiology are the same with a human or equine runners whether it is 1914 or 2006. NOTHING has changed, only opinions and interpretations about it.

I would really be interested to know, for the second time today, how today's racing is any different in pace terms, between any classical contests and today: they just aren't

Fast,Just to let you know Synergism was programmed by Purdy not Wadsworth.I get frustrated here as well Im all eager to talk about the Pirco days but noone here seems to want to do the same.I now have to go over to PA it seems they have more early Sartinites there at least ones that like to post.But I do what I have to, no sense complaining it wont get you anywhere anyhow.Shoeless

Hi shoeless
 

I'm glad for you
I see all the interest in the olders stuff you talk about over on PA
Good for you I'm sorry I can't be more help
and i guess its the amount of members they have
You and Fast seem unhapy here I'm real sorry that its not what you
want Maybe thingss will change I myself just am not interested in
hand entry The programs you use were were not discarded
because the newones were better Its was just something that doc Had to do for business and to keep his Methodolgy out of the mainstream
Funny how the more mainstream board -PaceAdvantage-Is
the best place for youwith docs non mainstream programs

Hoping the best for you Jeff
Bill

I am a real happy guy, I just do not agree with doc this and doc that, or what doc would have done. I feel I have been doing it long enough to understand mistakes I make and to know what works and more important what will work today. I doub't anyone will be going far to another site, its just more flash hype and empty thoughts to see if someone is interested in reading it. To cap off this reply which started out what happened to K19 & Proggie, if you want other than direct and what I am thinking at the time you have to pay me, because I say what I mean and mean what I say. I did not think I what I said was wrong.