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Race Cycle 4 starts here

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Originally Posted by pktruckdriver (Post 86232)

There are many ways I can and want to run 20 race cycle's, and will lssit a few of them here, and maybe a few others could state what they have done in the oast to get where they are now.

Using 1 track, not using races with FTS or Foriegn starters, and at least 6 starters. Betting top 2 value plays from top 3 BL/BL Screen.

Same using VDC as decision of top 3 horses and still betting value of top 3.

Doing a race cycle using last lines only and skipping races where long lay offs over 200 days, are skip races, as well as FTS.

Then maybe breaking down surface and distance at a track, and maybe even racee type, such as cl/al/stakes and even maiden with no FTS, but only if needed to break it down that far.

so yes there are alot of 20 race cycle that can be done, but the issue is that I only have 20 downloads a month, so I limited to so many races a month, but thiss is something that kinda keeps me from going overboard and doing too many to fast, rright?

Above why doing Race Cycle's will help me, and doing them is fun and learning, but some think the following is better. I THINK SINCE i AM TAKING TIME OFF TO LOSE WEIGHT AND HAVE TME TO DO RACE CYCLES, THEN I SHOULD DO THEM.

From Bill

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#29
Bill V.
Grade 1

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlsbad
Posts: 4,130 Good Skill Patrick
I'm no expert on human emotion and feelings but
All I can suggest to you is SLOW DOWN
Its like they teach us in big rig backing school

Almost every problem that acures while backing a big rig can be corrected by
Going SLOW and Getting Out And Looking or G.O.A.L

With The Sartin Methodology The GOAL can be found in looking at the follow ups

Slow down, when I finally have time to do this, I get slow down, sorry but do anyone else think it is wrong to do Cycle's when you have time, and to do different ones to see how well you are doing in different scenarios, is it not all learning, and only thru practice and learning do we get better?

Patrick

I am sorry
You seem to have the impression I am knocking your
method of betting and that you bet in bunches

I am not,

Your question was about Discipline
my suggestion was to G. O. A. L.

may I ask you?

After each race that you lose do you think any of the folowing thoughts

1. The favorite won yet it was rated worse than my horses ?
2. The favorite won yet it was rated better than my horses ?
3. Should I have passed the race? and why?
4. I had three win condenders I bet two of them the 3rd contender won
should I rethink my decision?
5. Have I made a paceline error ?
6. Should I post the race and P-C and ask advice ?

This is what I meant by Getting Out And Looking or G.O.A.L

I think this will help you
Bill

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Originally Posted by Bill V. (Post 86275)

ABsolutely not Bill, I welcome your ccomments, no matter what they are, I know for sure you are commenting because you care and want help me learn , and I would be stupid to think otherwise. You are sharing your thoughts and time with me and giving me stuff to think about, and to answer you, I always look back and see what I did and then what happened, and look at how well my gut feeling , as opposed to the program , did.

Example, I let the program choose a paceline by putting in a few lines, but they are on different surfaces, poly , turf and dirt, which sometimes turf and poly work well in P/L selections, and then poly and dirt , also go together, but dirt and turf, not so good, instead of going with my gut feeling and choosing the line that I feel is best for this race.

By going back over the races and seeing how well this goes I get better at deciding what works best for me, thru trial and error, ( not so much error ), but doing it over and over, practicing till the cows comes home I will get what works for me to become habit, like 2nd nature, where I can see my paceline a mile away, and know it is the right choice for this horse. I am sure many here are there now, so I need better wager decisions to put the pieces together, and this I wish to experiment with for a bit before I zero in on the best approach for me, something that suits my style and will keep me happy and most important profitable.

And for reading the FU's I make it a habit to read 2-3 a week, thou my reading comprehension is getting better, it'll take me reading them 5-10 times maybe before everything sticks in my thinker the way it should, but till then, no need not to practice while i can, is there?

patrick

PS: Just so you and evryone else knows, I AM VERY VERY THANKFUL, OKAY

2 and 9

screens follow

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Originally Posted by pktruckdriver (Post 86323)

2 and 9

screens follow

Hidden fav won in a head bob, but a loss anyway

6 and 8

8 horse is dropping to where he can win and has won, the 6 is in good form and also could repeat, trying to beat the 2 , and again the could lose to fav

10 and 11

my other contedner is the 4, but will play these 2 for value only, let's see

2 and 11

looking to also bet 7 on side, 8 also, but 9 is just looking good, but will pass on for now, maybe needs another

okay look at the coditons, NW2X, yet 2 horse has how many wins?

going with 2 and 4, and really want the 5 in there too, and the 6 , so do I pass, this race, no I make my decision with my bet and stick to it