Forum: General Discussion
10-27-2023, 10:02 AM
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Replies: 17
Views: 4,470
My Good Friend
I was shocked when I received the news of Michael's passing. We were close friends for over 40 years. We shared many a cigar with a scotch discussing handicapping and life in general. His ideas and...
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Forum: Sartin Methodology Handicapping 101 (102 ...)
01-29-2014, 06:06 PM
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Replies: 16
Views: 17,536
Appy,
Field size has always determined random...
Appy,
Field size has always determined random odds. Field of 10- maximum 9-1, there is always a winner. then I base the field by their run styles and set my odds line.
So now I have the choice...
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Forum: Sartin Methodology Handicapping 101 (102 ...)
01-29-2014, 10:51 AM
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Replies: 159
Views: 116,864
Ted,
I could easily see the Lone Early in the 6...
Ted,
I could easily see the Lone Early in the 6 horse field and also figured the public to bet with both hands. That being said I passed the race because I figured the horse would go off at close to...
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Forum: Sartin Methodology Handicapping 101 (102 ...)
01-28-2014, 09:30 PM
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Replies: 16
Views: 17,536
Opinions - Teaching Discussions
Bill,
I am not questioning what worked then still works now, nor am I drawing a line in the sand. This game now more than at anytime is about ROI because of takeout. My point was just that, the...
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Forum: Sartin Methodology Handicapping 101 (102 ...)
01-28-2014, 07:39 PM
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Replies: 159
Views: 116,864
Bill,
In all respect the example I was...
Bill,
In all respect the example I was referring to was the very first race that FTL posted, Straight forward forget the race and pass. Getting involved in a race like that is senseless IMO. Even...
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Forum: Sartin Methodology Handicapping 101 (102 ...)
01-28-2014, 05:54 PM
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Replies: 159
Views: 116,864
FTL,
This is an exercise in futility, IMO who...
FTL,
This is an exercise in futility, IMO who the hell cares who wins this one, at that price I'll go for a hotdog. This was the first thing I saw, was a no form but a chaos race that the public...
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Forum: General Discussion
01-21-2014, 09:48 PM
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Replies: 7
Views: 3,817
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Forum: General Discussion
01-21-2014, 08:06 PM
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Replies: 7
Views: 3,817
Segwin there's no argument from me for what...
Segwin there's no argument from me for what Pletcher has accomplished but his Derby record is quite the opposite. But Pletcher is not going to expand your bankroll as a handicapper with his lousy...
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Forum: General Discussion
01-21-2014, 07:15 PM
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Replies: 0
Views: 1,816
The Game
This game that I have played and loved for over 40 years is pushing me away because of instances such as yesterday's 9th race at Gulfstream. Here we have a Navarro horse taking over the lead in the...
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Forum: General Discussion
01-15-2014, 08:20 PM
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Replies: 4
Views: 3,209
Joefour,
Exactly, I can't understand those who...
Joefour,
Exactly, I can't understand those who would pay for picks or who in their right mind would purchase a system from those system mills that push out the greatest system ever every few weeks....
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Forum: General Discussion
01-15-2014, 04:00 PM
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Replies: 4
Views: 3,209
Appy,
I wonder just how many handicappers can...
Appy,
I wonder just how many handicappers can possibly show an overall profit purchasing what really is nothing more than their idea's of how to pick a winner. I have a filter on my e-mail sending...
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Forum: General Discussion
01-13-2014, 05:34 PM
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Replies: 4
Views: 3,209
Un-Information
Just throwing this out for discussion. Who here really gets anything out of the rubbish DRF puts out. Beyers is not the be all, Watchmaker couldn't pick a winner in a 1 horse race, and do you really...
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Forum: General Discussion
01-01-2014, 09:21 AM
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Replies: 16
Views: 6,496
A New Year
I was just cruising around to various sites New Years Eve and ended up here as I usually do. The amount of help and sound advice from the members helping others is what makes this site top drawer....
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Forum: General Discussion
11-26-2013, 05:23 PM
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Replies: 3
Views: 2,920
Appy,
This isn't something new it's the norm,...
Appy,
This isn't something new it's the norm, always has been. But now ask yourself, Wells, Ness, Navarro all young guns still wet behind the ears, but they want it. Back in the day some of the...
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Forum: General Discussion
11-25-2013, 09:46 AM
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Replies: 3
Views: 2,920
Drf
Well these past few days 3 trainers and a clocker get suspended from Penn National and DRF post it well after The Paulick Report. Funny, in general DRF avoids this stuff like the plague and they now...
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Forum: General Discussion
11-20-2013, 05:39 PM
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Replies: 117
Views: 62,060
This all seems like my numbers are better than...
This all seems like my numbers are better than your numbers. Numbers are numbers, add them up, combine them with others to get new numbers, in the end it's just numbers. All of this is such a grey...
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Forum: General Discussion
11-12-2013, 11:04 PM
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Replies: 10
Views: 7,090
Wilbur,
For what ever reasons you decided...
Wilbur,
For what ever reasons you decided to get out, no qualms from me, to each it's own. My single point is that horse racing is about in many cases false glorification and many will get hurt...
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Forum: General Discussion
11-04-2013, 07:39 PM
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Replies: 10
Views: 7,090
Appy,
The frequency of breakdowns I believe...
Appy,
The frequency of breakdowns I believe are up on dirt tracks yet down on poly but the fact of the matter is still, when the measuring stick is all about the money and fame, both horse and...
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Forum: General Discussion
11-04-2013, 08:45 AM
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Replies: 10
Views: 7,090
Johnny V Out For Rest Of Season
Well it's official, John Velazquez will be out for the remainder of the season after his spill in the BC Juvenile Fillies on Saturday. Secret Compass was euthanized as a result of her injuries and...
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Forum: Previous 'Handicapping Discussion' Forum
09-01-2013, 07:38 PM
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Replies: 16
Views: 10,001
Run Styles Hmmm! How many times do you believe...
Run Styles Hmmm! How many times do you believe you have the Run Style down pat only to find the darn horse doesn't run to the style, and it's another ticket on the floor. Too much Run Style and...
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Forum: General Discussion
08-20-2013, 06:31 PM
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Replies: 23
Views: 7,132
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Forum: General Discussion
08-20-2013, 05:48 PM
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Replies: 18
Views: 11,469
Jim,
Good luck to you, for 40 years plus this...
Jim,
Good luck to you, for 40 years plus this game still on occasion twists my boxers. The more I listen to handicappers in general place their thumb on the bet button with all their models and...
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Forum: Previous 'Handicapping Discussion' Forum
06-17-2013, 10:37 PM
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Replies: 4
Views: 8,382
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Forum: Previous 'Handicapping Discussion' Forum
06-17-2013, 10:10 PM
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Replies: 4
Views: 8,382
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Forum: Previous 'Handicapping Discussion' Forum
06-17-2013, 09:18 PM
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Replies: 15
Views: 18,100
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