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Mitch44 · 03-25-2016, 09:42 AM

Jeebs is correct about 4.5 F races. There is no pace in them and its all speed and who can get the best break etc. Stick to races there at 5.5 F and up.

As far as pace lines selection you need to step into the modern era and use the best of the last 3 at a comparable distance and surface. Which was the "Doc's" / Sartin later teachings as he evolved and through testing adapted. If there's not a comparable line in last 3 then go to line 4 etc. I believe its in Follow Up's # 77 & 80.

Sure the last line can win races and given enough bananas so can a trained monkey throwing a dart but you'll win more following Sartin's later teaching then the pace line manual written in 1987. Note: in that manual excuses are still a valid reason not to use the last line, also note the SportStat research in FU # 77 as far as price & winning % which is why he adapted and changed the pace line picking criteria.

I can think of so many reasons why the last line is incorrect that its not worth the time to list them. Welcome to the future and good luck. Adapt and overcome like the "Doc" or perish. Two main keys to winning regardless of which phase you use is picking contenders and pace lines. Sorry CT is not an oddball track.
Good luck.
Mitch44

03-25-2016, 09:42 AM	#3
Mitch44 Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: The Villages, Fl. Posts: 3,872	Jeebs is correct about 4.5 F races. There is no pace in them and its all speed and who can get the best break etc. Stick to races there at 5.5 F and up. As far as pace lines selection you need to step into the modern era and use the best of the last 3 at a comparable distance and surface. Which was the "Doc's" / Sartin later teachings as he evolved and through testing adapted. If there's not a comparable line in last 3 then go to line 4 etc. I believe its in Follow Up's # 77 & 80. Sure the last line can win races and given enough bananas so can a trained monkey throwing a dart but you'll win more following Sartin's later teaching then the pace line manual written in 1987. Note: in that manual excuses are still a valid reason not to use the last line, also note the SportStat research in FU # 77 as far as price & winning % which is why he adapted and changed the pace line picking criteria. I can think of so many reasons why the last line is incorrect that its not worth the time to list them. Welcome to the future and good luck. Adapt and overcome like the "Doc" or perish. Two main keys to winning regardless of which phase you use is picking contenders and pace lines. Sorry CT is not an oddball track. Good luck. Mitch44 Last edited by Mitch44; 03-25-2016 at 09:52 AM.