Pace and Cap - Sartin Methodology & The Match Up - View Single Post

lone speed · 04-16-2016, 10:52 AM

Mark.

I appreciated your detailed write up. You are absolutely correct in "the way" that we should analyze a race. From the last line up!!! I do believe that most classified allowances are won by layoff horses. A trainer usually has a stakes competitor returning from a long layoff but is training " like a monster" that he begs the racing secretary to write a race for his entrant. Usually.

Most optional claiming races vary greatly but a trainer can usually place a stakes caliber horse in these type of races without fear of his horse getting claimed. It's an optional claiming race but his stakes caliber horse qualifies to be entered in the race. FTL will be the most qualified person to comment in detailed about race conditions.

Regarding these practice races, I always enjoy an active board so I try to participate in these races posted by Bill and by others in the match up board. I enjoyed reading the thought processes of fellow matchers or handicappers. If not for theses match up races, most of us know that we will hear " crickets" on this board as most are studying past posts and/or the immense collections of past seminars in PDFs or "follow-up" issues.

In this race, I will admit that I did not spend much time on it. Top Billing did catch my attention as the "class horse" in this match up but he comes from the clouds and today's race was at a mile so I didn't think that Top Billing will get up in time. I do recalled that the trainer had Top Billing and Honor Code in the Derby trail from a couple of years ago.

When I looked at a race quickly which we are not "supposed to". I usually try to find the speed of the race or which horses has a possible "pair". Thorograph speak for a horse who might "move up" off two similar efforts which comprise of one race where the effort was expended in early pace energy and another race where the effort was expended in late energy. Only the "pair" reference pertains to Thorograph. The front/back energy expenditures was learned from many past observations.

In this race, I thought the #10 was the speed of the race and the #8 Chipit was the possible "pair" horse.

Thanks again, Mark....I appreciated your post for the proper thought process when analyzing a race.

04-16-2016, 10:52 AM	#13
lone speed Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 697	Mark. I appreciated your detailed write up. You are absolutely correct in "the way" that we should analyze a race. From the last line up!!! I do believe that most classified allowances are won by layoff horses. A trainer usually has a stakes competitor returning from a long layoff but is training " like a monster" that he begs the racing secretary to write a race for his entrant. Usually. Most optional claiming races vary greatly but a trainer can usually place a stakes caliber horse in these type of races without fear of his horse getting claimed. It's an optional claiming race but his stakes caliber horse qualifies to be entered in the race. FTL will be the most qualified person to comment in detailed about race conditions. Regarding these practice races, I always enjoy an active board so I try to participate in these races posted by Bill and by others in the match up board. I enjoyed reading the thought processes of fellow matchers or handicappers. If not for theses match up races, most of us know that we will hear " crickets" on this board as most are studying past posts and/or the immense collections of past seminars in PDFs or "follow-up" issues. In this race, I will admit that I did not spend much time on it. Top Billing did catch my attention as the "class horse" in this match up but he comes from the clouds and today's race was at a mile so I didn't think that Top Billing will get up in time. I do recalled that the trainer had Top Billing and Honor Code in the Derby trail from a couple of years ago. When I looked at a race quickly which we are not "supposed to". I usually try to find the speed of the race or which horses has a possible "pair". Thorograph speak for a horse who might "move up" off two similar efforts which comprise of one race where the effort was expended in early pace energy and another race where the effort was expended in late energy. Only the "pair" reference pertains to Thorograph. The front/back energy expenditures was learned from many past observations. In this race, I thought the #10 was the speed of the race and the #8 Chipit was the possible "pair" horse. Thanks again, Mark....I appreciated your post for the proper thought process when analyzing a race.