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Mitch44 · 05-02-2016, 03:19 PM

Your right Bill the Doc did do away with the visual, however I think the matchup cappers depend on it. Let me say most as some may look at the computer designation but few indeed if following "The Hat's" teachings.

I'm well aware of the original % early that was in PMTR but shortly after getting into this I got Synergism and it had the new % median in it, it made sense to me as being better. The DOC was also very much into all 3 FR's. When I started looking at phase 1 & PMTR I had trouble making head or tails of % early. % Med. was more on a scale of 100 and I grasped it much easier vs, % early, also perhaps because I started out on % Med.
I'm not knocking % early and if that's all you have its good but it can't compare to % Med.

I think on the new TPR screen in RDSS 2 % early should be added along with its ESP as determined by that. So should DCL (advanced concept of PMTR be added but the new form of DCL not -12 or +5 etc.)

The problem with the computer generated ESP being at the top of a horses record /PP is few look at that stuff up there and being down on the TPR screen would make it jump off at them more. Actually the best of both worlds would be % early i.e. 51.35% and the ESP from % Med which is more effective, the best of both worlds. The % Med. should be readily available with the adjusted 3 Fr's already done etc. I'm technically not sure how the ESP at the top of a horses chart is obtained and assume its by % Med. A good ? for Ted. It would be best to have only one computer driven ESP in the program as a % Early on one screen and a % Med on another could confuse many. KISS However % Med. isn't generic to TPR.

What your doing Bill with TPR also is correct because the 1st Fr isn't given in TPR and its very smart to consult the horses chart for further decisions. Or like me just except the computer driven ESP etc. Also consulting the sticks on the early / late graphs which I review. At one time they taught (back in early 90's) that a horse can't change its running style and their somewhat locked into that style however over the years and experience has taught me that just isn't true for some horses who can adapt their style for todays matchup. This is easily can be detected on the early / late sticks or graphs. Most can not but there are exceptions , these types tend to win more races also. As I said before I set up my screens specifically to detect this when picking pace lines as I want to pick a line that matches their style and for those duel flexible horses a style for todays matchup they'll encounter.

Mitch44

05-02-2016, 03:19 PM	#64
Mitch44 Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: The Villages, Fl. Posts: 3,872	Your right Bill the Doc did do away with the visual, however I think the matchup cappers depend on it. Let me say most as some may look at the computer designation but few indeed if following "The Hat's" teachings. I'm well aware of the original % early that was in PMTR but shortly after getting into this I got Synergism and it had the new % median in it, it made sense to me as being better. The DOC was also very much into all 3 FR's. When I started looking at phase 1 & PMTR I had trouble making head or tails of % early. % Med. was more on a scale of 100 and I grasped it much easier vs, % early, also perhaps because I started out on % Med. I'm not knocking % early and if that's all you have its good but it can't compare to % Med. I think on the new TPR screen in RDSS 2 % early should be added along with its ESP as determined by that. So should DCL (advanced concept of PMTR be added but the new form of DCL not -12 or +5 etc.) The problem with the computer generated ESP being at the top of a horses record /PP is few look at that stuff up there and being down on the TPR screen would make it jump off at them more. Actually the best of both worlds would be % early i.e. 51.35% and the ESP from % Med which is more effective, the best of both worlds. The % Med. should be readily available with the adjusted 3 Fr's already done etc. I'm technically not sure how the ESP at the top of a horses chart is obtained and assume its by % Med. A good ? for Ted. It would be best to have only one computer driven ESP in the program as a % Early on one screen and a % Med on another could confuse many. KISS However % Med. isn't generic to TPR. What your doing Bill with TPR also is correct because the 1st Fr isn't given in TPR and its very smart to consult the horses chart for further decisions. Or like me just except the computer driven ESP etc. Also consulting the sticks on the early / late graphs which I review. At one time they taught (back in early 90's) that a horse can't change its running style and their somewhat locked into that style however over the years and experience has taught me that just isn't true for some horses who can adapt their style for todays matchup. This is easily can be detected on the early / late sticks or graphs. Most can not but there are exceptions , these types tend to win more races also. As I said before I set up my screens specifically to detect this when picking pace lines as I want to pick a line that matches their style and for those duel flexible horses a style for todays matchup they'll encounter. Mitch44 Last edited by Mitch44; 05-02-2016 at 03:23 PM.