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RichieP · 07-20-2016, 07:46 AM

Jim always worked races projecting paces and analyzing races 1c-2c-sc. Final time involvement brought too many sustained runners as final contenders for me who very rarely won.

Projecting pace was 1c-2c, in routes he would also have me look at the first fraction which virtually nobody paid any attention to. He would tell me when people said it didnt matter to have them go run a quarter mile down the block!

He lays out 2 methods to project pace in his 5 step approach, for myself the first way where there is an actual early runner ( leading or fighting for the lead at 1c and 2c) has worked very nicely.

The second way where an OTE runner has faced the FPLR Jim had me pay special attention to horses that gained both positions and beaten lengths from the 1c to 2c. Check field size and if they were in say midpack or closer positionally and gained those positions and lengths 1c to 2c they were to be evaluated as a contender today if the race shape for the winner was called as OTE. While this is not the same exact process as outlined in the 5 step approach it is what he did with me when there was no true early runner to project the pace with.

I am off to work now, later I will explain his first way in detail and give you a couple of "keys" Jim gave me to look for with the early runners that might signal a big paying mutual today.

Richie

07-20-2016, 07:46 AM	#12
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	Fplr Jim always worked races projecting paces and analyzing races 1c-2c-sc. Final time involvement brought too many sustained runners as final contenders for me who very rarely won. Projecting pace was 1c-2c, in routes he would also have me look at the first fraction which virtually nobody paid any attention to. He would tell me when people said it didnt matter to have them go run a quarter mile down the block! He lays out 2 methods to project pace in his 5 step approach, for myself the first way where there is an actual early runner ( leading or fighting for the lead at 1c and 2c) has worked very nicely. The second way where an OTE runner has faced the FPLR Jim had me pay special attention to horses that gained both positions and beaten lengths from the 1c to 2c. Check field size and if they were in say midpack or closer positionally and gained those positions and lengths 1c to 2c they were to be evaluated as a contender today if the race shape for the winner was called as OTE. While this is not the same exact process as outlined in the 5 step approach it is what he did with me when there was no true early runner to project the pace with. I am off to work now, later I will explain his first way in detail and give you a couple of "keys" Jim gave me to look for with the early runners that might signal a big paying mutual today. Richie __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"