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Tim Y · 12-10-2016, 09:00 AM

All the wagers I deal with are VERTICAL and have 2 keys to keep the costs down. No races with less than 7 horses. Works well enough to follow it the entire season. Now a proven winner at two meetings. Typical ticket is $144.00 for a buck as the average Super is well above that. Often go to 20 cent tickets for back up in some as well. the TWO keys are PART of the top 6, there are not 8 horses in that ticket.

Meeting MUST have enough money in the pools to pay off: would NEVER work at Fairmont Park, Portland Meadows, Fair Grounds, Turf Paradise, California State Fairs etc etc. Going to follow Turfway this winter for a few weeks to see if it has the Structure within Chaos that these successful venues have. Laurel sounded good in THEORY but it did not pass muster (big fields were the enticement there). Biggest payouts have been in the bigger fields which makes sense.

Also one must stay away from things that have no data: babies on the grass the first time, FULL fields of first time starters (although a few came through but not enough for long term play), overwhelming favorites that are logical (waste of effort in those as even when you WIN the bet you don't win much cash)

None of these are just BOXED.

12-10-2016, 09:00 AM	#7
Tim Y turf historian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,455	All the wagers I deal with are VERTICAL and have 2 keys to keep the costs down. No races with less than 7 horses. Works well enough to follow it the entire season. Now a proven winner at two meetings. Typical ticket is $144.00 for a buck as the average Super is well above that. Often go to 20 cent tickets for back up in some as well. the TWO keys are PART of the top 6, there are not 8 horses in that ticket. Meeting MUST have enough money in the pools to pay off: would NEVER work at Fairmont Park, Portland Meadows, Fair Grounds, Turf Paradise, California State Fairs etc etc. Going to follow Turfway this winter for a few weeks to see if it has the Structure within Chaos that these successful venues have. Laurel sounded good in THEORY but it did not pass muster (big fields were the enticement there). Biggest payouts have been in the bigger fields which makes sense. Also one must stay away from things that have no data: babies on the grass the first time, FULL fields of first time starters (although a few came through but not enough for long term play), overwhelming favorites that are logical (waste of effort in those as even when you WIN the bet you don't win much cash) None of these are just BOXED. __________________ Albert Einstein:"The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind."